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re: Why does fhe fanbase hold the Alabama game as the success defining moment every year?
Posted on 11/6/18 at 10:20 am to Tiger Voodoo
Posted on 11/6/18 at 10:20 am to Tiger Voodoo
THEY are IN THE WAY to the ultimate goal.
BOTH the SEC Championship and NC go thru Alabama as long as there is no change in the WEST perennial scheduling.
BOTH the SEC Championship and NC go thru Alabama as long as there is no change in the WEST perennial scheduling.
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Posted on 11/6/18 at 10:23 am to WaydownSouth
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Why does fhe fanbase hold the Alabama game as the success defining moment every year
1. To be the best you have to beat the best
2. I think it would be lot more palatable if we had not lost 8 straight and the series was somewhat competitive. But it isn’t and the gap seems to be widening each year.
That’s what has people so upset.
It’s the rant and people will bitch no matter what. But had we lost something like 17-10 or even 29-20 we would feel a little better about things moving forward.
But we did significantly worse offensively that any other team they have played. And it’s not even close.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 10:24 am to WaydownSouth
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Why does fhe fanbase hold the Alabama game as the success defining moment every year?
Is Alabama not at the top of the mountain right now? They are the standard everyone is aiming for. It's not just LSU, and I don't know of another fanbase that is tickled Bama is still demolishing everyone 11 years later.
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Nobody thought this team would win a title. We lost our QB, RB, and all of our WRs. 10-2 will be a great season and a big step in the right direction
Ah, the annual moving of the goal posts. No one is really bitching that we simply lost to Bama. It happens, they are obviously the platinum standard of CFB. What we're pissed about is that LSU is not giving it 100% commitment to win like Bama does. We've been trotting out a steaming pile of shite for Offense for over a decade now. You really think that is trying at Bama's level?
We lost to Bama. It happens. What should not happen is getting utterly blanked and humiliated on any field against them, let alone our own. Losing to them means they have a great program; getting blanked at home by them means we serious issues.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 10:27 am to GeauxTigerTM
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So we've now gone from screaming that Miles was underachieving averaging 10 wins a year because he was failing to win the west and compete for titles (translation: beat BAMA) to screaming that not only can we not even be expected to compete with BAMA because their coach it the greatest of all time and they are so much more talented than anyone else, but why are we even worried about competing with them AT ALL?
Look...I realize people keep getting their panties in wads anytime someone mentions the moving of goalposts...but for frick's sake, I feel like I'm the only one here at times that can remember even a few years ago when the expectations for this program were what they were. Either I've got a fricking brain tumor and am misremembering EVERYTHING about the past 10+ years of fan complaints, or this has become an obvious attempt to shift the expectations into something that's potentially achievable for this staff
Man chicken should paste this on the home page.
It’s 100% accurate.
People are just conceding that we are just mediocre now and it’s oretty ducking sad that so many are ok with that.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 10:31 am to Clark W Griswold
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Nobody expected us to beat them before the season but we when actually lose to them it’s like we had no idea it was coming.
For the 5 millionth time.
It isnt so much that we lost. It’s that we were shut out at home...again... and were less competitive against Bama than ULL and Arkansas State.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 10:34 am to RuLSU
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No, you're 100% right.
Whew...I was worried it was a tumor.
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Les Miles never got the benefit of the doubt because he was a weirdo from Ohio.
And because he was following Saban. That just got worse when Saban went to BAMA and then did what he did. But I know people...TO THIS frickING DAY...that still stand by their opinion they had after the loss to TENN in his second game after Hurricanes Katrina and Rita decimated the area that he should have been fired right then and there. Even with 13 years worth of distance, they still can;t see clearly there about the guy.
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I brushed a lot of that talk off over the past two years, figuring fans just wanted to support their favorite team, but it's clear some fans have more loyalty to the 'he's one of us' coach than the program's long-term success.
I've honestly thought about this more than I should have, because I was worried about just hammering someone with that stereotype. But, I really do tend to agree.
I look at it this way. I want LSU to succeed. I don't care if the coach is black, white Samoan, Eskimo, etc. Win, and win a lot. Now...if I could choose anyone to lead LSU that would win, and win a lot...would I want it to be a local guy, or a guy with ties to the program? The part of me that is a LA native, who is from the same River Parishes region as Orgeron (though more in the Luling area and not "down da bayou") and who has lived nearly my entire 48 years south of I-10 in Louisiana kind of likes the idea of a local guy at the helm. If we could have the best coach in the nation AND have him be a local who truly understands this area and culture...why not?
Then I remember where we live, and just how corrupt and incestuous this place can be when it comes to money and power...both of which are huge hen it comes to LSU Football. sometimes things go bad...so do we REALLY want a local guy, with all the local ties that will inevitably come with him, being sewn into the athletic department? What happens if things go bad, or if we're expecting local media to report the truth about the program but won't because they have personal and financial ties with the head coach they want to protect?
So, no...all things being equal, I'm no fan of having the local guy as cool as it may sound. And I think you're right...many others feel the opposite, and have taken to protecting him because they feel as if that's what you do with family, even when they're wrong.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 10:36 am to WaydownSouth
It doesn't help that we have played a game and were capable of beating them three times since 2011. In fact, I'd argue we were the better team in 2012 & 2014, just didn't execute when it mattered most. They won a national championship one of those years and lost in the semi-final the other. That always kind of stings.
This post was edited on 11/6/18 at 10:37 am
Posted on 11/6/18 at 10:41 am to CP3forMVP
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if LSU had beaten Bama this year
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would that be a successful season?
Yes
Posted on 11/6/18 at 10:55 am to memphis tiger
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It isnt so much that we lost. It’s that we were shut out at home...again... and were less competitive against Bama than ULL and Arkansas State.
How long were the Bama starters in the game against us compared to their games against ULL and Arkansas State?
Posted on 11/6/18 at 11:34 am to WaydownSouth
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Why does fhe fanbase hold the Alabama game as the success defining moment every year?
Coach O made it all about beating Bama in his first speech as HC. He made it all about Bama with his we coming talk. He has made it all about beating Bama on the recruiting trail and keeping La kids. He mentioned beating Bama when he hired Coach E.
I'd say Coach O made his tenure all about beating Bama by himself. He clearly stated the goal is to win the west. To do that he must beat Bama. Problem is his coaching and recruiting have gotten us no closer to beating Bama. The gap between the two is widening and Coach O teams have only scored one td in three games. He is a failure on his main stated goal of beating Bama.
This post was edited on 11/6/18 at 11:39 am
Posted on 11/6/18 at 11:37 am to CBandits82
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It isnt so much that we lost. It’s that we were shut out at home...again... and were less competitive against Bama than ULL and Arkansas State.
How long were the Bama starters in the game against us compared to their games against ULL and Arkansas State?
Who cares?
Are you really suggesting that Arkansas State and ULL are comparable programs to LSU?
There is absolutely zero justification for LSU to be shut out at home twice in a row by any team.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 4:40 pm to swimmove
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The SEC teams that have beaten Alabama have done so in the front to middle part of the season, Ole Miss, A&M.
Did Auburn leave the SEC?
because last i checked, they beat them more than any other SEC team and play them late in the year.
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