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re: Why does everyone have issues with NIL

Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:50 am to
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:50 am to
No it has not been going on to this level. It hasn't been anywhere near this level. Why do you think TAMU and Texas were not historically buying classes in the past? Use your common sense.

NCAA quite literally shite the bed on this entire ordeal between the transfer portal and NIL. It's out of control and no way it can sustain itself this way. They continue to dump rules to make NCAA even worse. It's just a position for the richest schools to get richer right now. LSU is in better position than most schools but small fry compared to the money ones. You don't want this flowing like it is why do you think Saban is bitching? Not even Bama can keep up with it.

Honestly, I think Saban sees the writing on the wall and is very close to retirement because of it.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 10:55 am
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:50 am to
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a free agency market.


A free agency market rife with tampering.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30158 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:55 am to
Professionals get paid to play ball. College players do not get paid, allegedly.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11938 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:58 am to
I have not problem with players making money for off field activities, should have never been against the rules.

This has turned to pay for play for some schools, and if it is going to be pay for play it needs to be fair. I think the only way to make that fair is to break up D1, there are some obvious tiers that just would provide better match ups week in and week out if they didn't play cup cakes for a 1/3 of their games to pad the records every year.
Posted by Geaux002
Member since Jan 2021
1282 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:00 am to
When there are no enforceable rules there will not be anyone in charge. There needs to be a governing body to oversee things. The NCAA is done. That is why they fought this for so long.
There will be less parity than before and we now have a free agent system with the transfer rules.
Personally, I liked college football because you can watch players come in and grow and build a program. Like nfl used to be. For me, not as fun with the constant turnover and having to re recruit the roster
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 11:30 am
Posted by mitchleger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2013
59 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:04 am to
the "one time transfer" has become transfer as much as you like. The NIL has become Now its legal to buy a championship.
Both Have simple fixes:
1) Athletes can transfer once without sitting out. After your first transfer you can sit out and not lose eligibility.
2) Any schools that make the playoffs are ineligible to get any transfers the following year.
This does not restrict any athletes from receiving NIL deals and ensures transfers do not make the rich richer
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
12483 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:11 am to
I have no issue with the spirit of NIL. I have a massive fricking issue with pay for play, which is what's actually going on right now.

I have an even bigger issue with the transfer portal. The two together as a package deal is fricking TERRIBLE for college sports.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:12 am to
People have issue with players having control. And people hate change. And that is really the bottom line.


LSU fans afraid of being poached or battling for recruits are dumb. LSU football is top notch & at the forefront of leading college football in everything. They will have no issue keeping up
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47219 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:12 am to
Imagine professional football where players could change teams every year and go to the highest bidder.

That’s now college football.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47219 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:16 am to
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People have issue with players having control. And people hate change. And that is really the bottom line.


Stupid take.

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LSU fans afraid of being poached or battling for recruits are dumb. LSU football is top notch & at the forefront of leading college football in everything. They will have no issue keeping up


More stupid take.

quote:

Lester Earl


Tracks.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 11:17 am
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:16 am to
You can't be that naive to think LSU can keep up with the current environment where the money is flowing. This was not an issue in the past with bigger money schools because they had way too much regulating it and it was harder to just throw 30 million on a recruiting class to get to the top. It's so in the open with free tampering that it's at the point where they have so many loopholes that it's impossible for the NCAA to regulate every school. They don't have the resources because so much money is out there right now.

This is not the same thing as handing money under the table to get a recruit here or there. It gives bigger money schools free reign over how to spend it without worry about consequences. LSU can't compete with the top 5 if they want to get dirty with money. Saban knows it which is why he's already bitching about it because neither can Bama. You'll be in better position than most at LSU but you still won't touch that cream of the crop in the top 5 maybe top 10 in money. LSU's endowment, alumni, is not that great in comparison to even some SEC schools.

LSU is also in a worse position economically because they're located Louisiana which ain't exactly a hotbed of economics especially to work with NIL. They would have to get very creative to compete.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 11:19 am
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
74911 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:21 am to
It's the combination of the transfer portal and NIL. It was never designed to be a methodology for booster adjacent companies to buy players from other teams.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
284792 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:23 am to
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You can't be that naive to think LSU can keep up with the current environment where the money is flowing.


tell me why they can’t
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
5785 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:24 am to
Make them sit out a year would curtail this nonsense to a reasonable level
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:30 am to
I just told you why. There's more than just economics behind your athletics program. There's a lot of outside moving parts that are not in LSU's favor right now. Do you think a kid is going to go to LSU over USC who can run NIL deals nobody can compete with just being in Hollywood? They can toss money LSU can't keep up with too.

Why do you think LSU has been rather slow to push against the universities throwing money right now? They have lots working against them. They don't have the economics in Louisiana, it's harder to scrap together NIL deals because of this, they don't have the endowment or alumni that even most SEC schools beat them in, they had legislature working against them, etc.

LSU is in the fortunate position where their athletics make money and they can go all out but that still doesn't mean you can compete money wise with the TAMU, USC, or Texas of the NCAA. The current environment allows them to not even attempt to hide money which is why the money universities are going wild and trying to buy championships that were harder to do in the past. Now this gives the big money universities an excuse to make their own league they can control and break off the NCAA. TAMU is already threatening it to sue.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 11:32 am
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14364 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:33 am to
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With players being able to transfer and play without having to sit out a year packaged with NIL it basically creates a free agency market



Otherwise known as capitalism.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14364 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:34 am to
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They don't play for love of the sport and love of the school. They play for love of money.



So just like it’s been the last 50 years? Good
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
284792 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:34 am to
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This is not the same thing as handing money under the table to get a recruit here or there. It gives bigger money schools free reign over how to spend it without worry about consequences.


It’s all connected brether.

LSU just finished 7th in recruiting and they changed coaches a month before signing day

There isn’t even really a structure in place yet either. Fault them for that, sure. But they will be able to keep up. Everything from the last 20 years proves that.

If they aren’t in the “top 5” with disposable money, they will still be fine. If they are 7th or 8th & wining & Kelly is on top of his shite, they are going to win & compete for championships
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 11:34 am
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14364 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:35 am to
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Anyone believing this is literally retarded.



Are you so stupid that you don’t believe players have been being paid all this time? Lololololololololol
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:35 am to
As it is currently they will not keep up with it. If this is not structured it's going to favor the same 5 universities where the rich get richer. That's why Saban is bitching because he sees the writing on the wall.
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