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re: Why does CPM have to ask his players what position they played in high school?
Posted on 3/8/21 at 10:55 am to ell_13
Posted on 3/8/21 at 10:55 am to ell_13
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I'm not saying Cain doesn't do the majority of the work especially when it involves travel. PM didn't know the position of a kid who was recruited to play a position and who was down the road... You can't see the issue there?
In my opinion, PM should know everything about a kid even if he’s from out of state. You never know if a kid could be another Austin Bain.
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Posted on 3/8/21 at 10:56 am to doubleb
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but I could play any position on the field and would do fine until they hit me a ball
uh, what?
so you "did fine" just standing there, but sucked when the ball was hit to you. so, you couldn't play any position. you sucked because you couldn't make a play.
Posted on 3/8/21 at 10:58 am to GeauxRN
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Jared Poche played outfield for lutcher and hit like .400 his senior year. do you think anyone on the staff cared he played outfield?
Poche’ played first base at Lutcher when he didn’t pitch and batted third in the order.
Should it had mattered? Probably not since Poche’ was a starting pitcher from jump, but from what I saw he may have been a college first baseman too.
Posted on 3/8/21 at 11:00 am to doubleb
guessing he played both then. the games I saw, he was in the outfield.
Posted on 3/8/21 at 11:01 am to doubleb
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This post was edited on 3/8/21 at 11:08 am
Posted on 3/8/21 at 11:02 am to GeauxRN
quote:Look, if you don't want to read the actual bio that says he could contribute on the field which I'm sure are written by someone on staff who knows the plans for these freshmen, I don't know what to tell you. You're being willfully ignorant. Hellmers was brought in with the possibility playing on the field. And he was down the road... love that you ignored that part.
hellmers was recruited as a pitcher. he wasn't recruited as a third baseman. I dont know what you dont get about that.
Point being, PM isn't involved. He doesn't know what he's getting sometimes. That's a problem.
Posted on 3/8/21 at 11:11 am to GeauxRN
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uh, what? so you "did fine" just standing there, but sucked when the ball was hit to you.
so, you couldn't play any position. you sucked because you couldn't make a play.
I could catch fly balls, now I couldn’t run like Gio. I could field ground balls, but my range was limited.
A player that can’t make the necessary plays is limited. You can try to hide kids, but the baseball gods find them.
This post was edited on 3/8/21 at 11:44 am
Posted on 3/8/21 at 11:12 am to GeauxRN
Possibly, I did not see every game.
Posted on 3/8/21 at 11:14 am to doubleb
quote:You having a stroke?
I could girls ground balls, but my r as now was limited.
A player that can’t make the necessary plays is limited. You css as my hide kids, the baseball gods find them.
Posted on 3/8/21 at 11:22 am to GeauxRN
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hellmers was recruited as a pitcher. he wasn't recruited as a third baseman. I dont know what you dont get about that.
He was recruited primarily as a P but has a good bat and is a top notch 1B. He was recruited with potential 2 way play.
How he ended up at 3B with little practice there and opening weekend is a travesty.
Knew he would bounce back but he was given a shite hand to start he career at LSU.
Posted on 3/8/21 at 11:25 am to 777Tiger
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most players at that level, with a few exceptions(lumbering catcher,) should be able to competently handle any position on the field for a few innings
This is some kind of nonsense right here.
Outfielders tend to be taller, faster, big arms and big bats. You can afford to play a defensive liability in RF. Try that in center or left.
Same thing in the infield. 1B and 3B can be a little weak, defensively, as long as they get on base a lot. Again, try that at 2b or SS and see what happens.
And a great, great infielder could suck in the outfield just because he doesn't have the legs or arm. A great outfielder might not have the reflexes or "baseball" smarts to play even competently in the infield, particularly in the middle.
Posted on 3/8/21 at 11:37 am to Ace Midnight
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This is some kind of nonsense right here.
not going to get in the traditional TD pissing contest here, wouldn't even respond if it weren't you, but you are a reasonable guy, I've got quite a bit of experience in this matter(also why I deleted my last post in this thread,) part of that post was this, most of the guys on the team were probably the best athletes on every team, every sport growing up, they have likely played almost every position at one time or another while growing up, and there's probably a lot of ex shortstops/pitchers(usually the best athletes,) on the roster that could certainly competently, temporarily cover just about any position
Posted on 3/8/21 at 11:39 am to 777Tiger
quote:Pitchers are different especially lefties. They can be pretty unathletic and uncoordinated. It's weird.
most of the guys on the team were probably the best athletes on every team, every sport growing up, they have likely played almost every position at one time or another while growing up, and there's probably a lot of ex shortstops/pitchers(usually the best athletes,) on the roster that could certainly competently, temporarily cover just about any position
Posted on 3/8/21 at 11:43 am to GeauxRN
What do you not get. Paul doesn’t know his players.
Nor does he care to.
He can’t read his file?
Nor does he care to.
He can’t read his file?
Posted on 3/8/21 at 11:44 am to ell_13
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Pitchers are different especially lefties. They can be pretty unathletic and uncoordinated. It's weird.
true dat, and unfortunately in today's travel ball world, if a coach(dad,) thinks little Braxton shows any sign of pitching potential, they won't get reps at other positions, or at bats, have a good friend that pitched for LSU(lefty,) and had almost a 15 year big league career, he never swung a bat in a game past 10 years old until he was pitching for a NL team and had to
Posted on 3/8/21 at 11:44 am to ell_13
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You having a stroke?
I’m ok now. Thxs
Posted on 3/8/21 at 11:45 am to doubleb
Whew. Don't you fricking die on me.
Posted on 3/8/21 at 12:23 pm to 777Tiger
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and there's probably a lot of ex shortstops/pitchers(usually the best athletes,) on the roster that could certainly competently, temporarily cover just about any position
Well, I think it is part of the reason why Marineri was trying to figure out who has what experience, where, so that he can make a little more informed decision.
And, frankly, baseball (within position groupings) does have more easily transferable skills - most CF/LF can play RF easily. And, you're right, a great HS SS that plays 3B in college could, in a pinch, probably play SS, 2B or even 1B without too much risk.
This misses the point, though - the RF is not there to play right field. He's there not to be a liability in right field, but mainly his job is to get on base and drive runs in.
Same for the 1B. I'm not saying guys aren't stellar fielders at RF or 1st, but that isn't the job. Once you start moving guys around it is either because of a injury bug (not common in BB) or you're trying to generate more offense. So, you want the best offensive guy at the position who isn't going to cost you in the field.
But a guy who has been playing 3B is going to need some adjustment time even to SS or 2B. It would be a much bigger risk to move that guy to the outfield in college, even if he played some outfield in HS.
Posted on 3/8/21 at 12:27 pm to Ace Midnight
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This misses the point
I probably did, what I was replying to(or at least thought I was,) was that in a pinch, a blow out, or an injury after substitutions have been made and the bench is getting thin, for a temporary fix, just about anybody on the roster should be able to step up
Posted on 3/8/21 at 12:28 pm to ell_13
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ol? by ell_13
Whew. Don't you fricking die on me.
Lol, who downvoted this????
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