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re: Why does Coach O get so much grief about his first head coaching job?
Posted on 11/13/16 at 11:42 am to OU812
Posted on 11/13/16 at 11:42 am to OU812
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It is absolutely amazing to me that people want to SETTLE for coach that is not being mentioned by ONE major program as a head coaching candidate just being he is a fit here or he is CAJUN
Exactly. I think you were the 1st poster i saw asking the question about whether or not any of the big time programs would have Coach O in their cumulative top 5.
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Posted on 11/13/16 at 11:44 am to onlyone
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recruiter and will get 90% of the talent out of Louisiana if he goes
Ha ha he didnt get 90% of la talent while at lsu. My god.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 11:49 am to OU812
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that is not being mentioned by ONE major program as a head coaching candidate just being he is a fit here or he is CAJUN
Coach O isnt really valuable to many other schools, but he would be for LSU. He's not my first choice, but 5th or 6th. People are really discounting his ability to recruit & motivate. He is basically Les Miles without the stubbornness. The way he has continue to recruit with authority for LSU will go a long way for the future of our team, whether he is retained or not.
He is willing to hire great coaches & actually listen to them. He is humble enough to admit that he failed as a coach, & has learned from the mistakes he made. He has a great sense of self awareness, which is a trait successful people have. Les Miles didn't have that.
LSU could win with Oregeron. shite i think they could compete for National championships under him. If you recruit at a high level and put them in position to win(which Miles failed at), that is a successful program.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 11:51 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 11/13/16 at 11:54 am to Lester Earl
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He is basically Les Miles without the stubbornness
How do you know this?
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He is willing to hire great coaches & actually listen to them
How do you know this?
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LSU could win with Oregeron. shite i think they could compete for National championships under him.
Please point to all these career position coaches having head coaching success.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 11:55 am to emanresu
Of course it does ranter
He did it at usc and over here now.
Until saban leaves bama, bama will always be in the playoffs or a major bowl game. Nothing is changing that
He did it at usc and over here now.
Until saban leaves bama, bama will always be in the playoffs or a major bowl game. Nothing is changing that
Posted on 11/13/16 at 11:57 am to Lester Earl
I agree but let's go out and hire a young gun coach for 7 million because he coached at a mid major and beat Bowling Green and had a upset in a bowl game against a team that didn't give a shite. I like Herman btw but like you said O is not a bad option if Herman isn't available. Only reason I like Herman also is he recruits the same area LSU does.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 11:59 am to Rickdaddy4188
Every coach at the college or pro level started as a position coach. How stupid are you?????
Posted on 11/13/16 at 11:59 am to FLBooGoTigs1
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I agree but let's go out and hire a young gun coach for 7 million because he coached at a mid major and beat Bowling Green and had a upset in a bowl game against a team that didn't give a shite. I like Herman btw but like you said O is not a bad option if Herman isn't available. Only reason I like Herman also is he recruits the same area LSU does.
There are ,literally, 40 different coordinators with better resumes than ed orgeron. But yeah lets hire a career dline coach because he wasnt successful enough to keep the ole miss job.
Big time programs dont think enough of him to let him run the defense(which is far easier) let alone the program.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 12:00 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Look I get your take but if Herman doesn't come here and then I am out on these other candidates. If Aranda stays only condition Coach O is hired I want O. My dream Herman and Aranda together for 2 years at least.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 12:00 pm to FLBooGoTigs1
Herman will get a look, as will several others. The only thing that really worries me with Coach O is that next year we are losing a ton of talent, and it more then likely wont be a great season for the Tigers.
Im more worried about him starting his career with winning momentum then i would be with someone else we bring in. So that is the one problem with him for me. He's more of a program sustainer for me, but his recruiting tenacity can not be denied. He'd have us in good position year in and year out.
Im more worried about him starting his career with winning momentum then i would be with someone else we bring in. So that is the one problem with him for me. He's more of a program sustainer for me, but his recruiting tenacity can not be denied. He'd have us in good position year in and year out.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 12:00 pm to FLBooGoTigs1
Hiring o would be equivalent to the Johnny Jones hire
Posted on 11/13/16 at 12:01 pm to dukke v
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Every coach at the college or pro level started as a position coach. How stupid are you?????
coaches dont START as a position coach. You dont know shite about football.
Also, starting as a position coach ( they dont) is different than being a CAREER POSITION COACH. But hey i dont expect you to know that.
Good coaches move on to actually being coordinators. Please let me in on all these career position coaches that get hired as head coaches at big time programs. It literally NEVER happens.
This post was edited on 11/13/16 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 11/13/16 at 12:01 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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There are ,literally, 40 different coordinators with better resumes than ed orgeron
And, of those 40, how many would you take over Orgeron? Be honest.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 12:02 pm to Tegre
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If O is such a pitiful option I want to hear from you with that opinion who is guaranteed to be a great head coach here. And if this person doesn't exist how can you choose an uncertain coach over O's proven record with the Tigers?(assuming he wins out)
Wow! Scary that this is a real mentality in our fan base.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 12:03 pm to sunnydaze
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Hiring o would be equivalent to the Johnny Jones hire
If anything you can make the argument that JJ has the better resume
Posted on 11/13/16 at 12:05 pm to SabiDojo
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And, of those 40, how many would you take over Orgeron? Be honest.
Every single one. They have proven they can actually run a side of the ball successfully.
Look i hope we keep O on staff because he is a great dlin coach and great recruiter but THATS were it stops. Id be more in favor of giving Aranda the HC job over Coach O.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 12:05 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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coaches dont START as a position coach
Really??? The Great Saban was A DB coach for a good while before getting his first HC job....
Hell even your boyfriend Miles was A d-line coach and held several position jobs before he got his 1st HC job....
Posted on 11/13/16 at 12:05 pm to dukke v
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Really??? The Great Saban was A DB coach for a good while before getting his first HC job....
Coaches dont start as a position coach. They start below that. Educate yourself.
And again, GOOD coaches progress passed position coaches.
This post was edited on 11/13/16 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 11/13/16 at 12:06 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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There are ,literally, 40 different coordinators with better resumes than ed orgeron
You are really stupid if you think this..........
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