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re: Why do we keep giving LSU coaching jobs to Louisiana natives who "deserve" it?

Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:30 am to
Posted by OU812
Michigan
Member since Apr 2004
13677 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:30 am to
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If 6-2 or 5-2 is now considered a success then LSU football is in trouble....


This! People are satisfied and that is the difference between LSU and Bama now.
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
42895 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:34 am to
So, if someone DOES deserve the Coaching job BUT they are from Louisiana that should DQ them??? Help me with that logic.
Posted by canyon
MM23
Member since Dec 2003
22201 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:43 am to
Not sure you meant to respond to me but the best candidate should get the job no matter from where they come.

Posted by tigerborderjumper
Member since Sep 2014
2656 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:51 am to
Exactly - Easy hires for Alleva with minimal to no effort
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:07 am to
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So far O has done very well


In what universe is scoring ten points while losing to Alabama and Florida, both home games, seen as doing very well? Our DC was already on staff and our OC is yet to face a SEC defense at LSU. Our recruiting ranking has taken a hit and players are still leaving early.


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Not sure any other head coach would have done any better.


Any position coach on the LSU staff could have done as well. It's laughable that people really want to think the best hire for LSU football was a DL coach who couldn't even get a DC job in ten years after failing miserably in his last head coach job.

Alleva needs to go before he fricks up LSU sports any more than he already has.
Posted by OU812
Michigan
Member since Apr 2004
13677 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:10 am to
The Crue...why is Motley Crue not in the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame when the likes of Green Day and 2 Pack Shaker are now in? Come on, Motley has sold more 100 million albums worldwide and 2 Pack is not even rock n roll.
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:14 am to
Alleva is lazy and always takes the path of least resistance. Pretty simple. Instead of doing his job and hiring the best coach available, he hires the easy and cheap guy.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:43 am to
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If 6-2 or 5-2 is now considered a success then LSU football is in trouble....



First it was "only if he runs the table should he get the job." Then it was, "well he lost to Bama, if he wins out from here he should get the job." Then it was "well, that one was on the players, close enough."
Posted by BigEd
South Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
59 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:06 am to
There were at least 2 coaches ahead of Orgeron on LSU's want list but they chose not to come to LSU.
Posted by Mulerider
Member since Jul 2013
1615 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:06 am to
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If 6-2 or 5-2 is now considered a success then LSU football is in trouble....


Exactly, which is why two loss Les Miles was fired and should have been fired sooner. No other coach could have come in under the circumstances and done any better. The extension for Aranda and the hiring of Canada have solidified O as the right choice thus far.

Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:19 am to
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When the LSU basketball head coaching job came open, Dale Brown and Collis Temple were lobbying hard to give the job to Johnny Jones. He deserved it or something. He was local, a part of LSU, and it was time for him. He just needed to get the job, they said. The whole thing has been a failure.

Miles leaves and we hire Orgeron because he is from Louisiana and he "deserves" it. He talks like us and thinks like us. His history in no way qualifies him for the job, but he got it because people wanted him to have it. I really hope that his tenure is more successful than Johnny Jones has been, and there are reasons to think it will be. But, what I want to talk about is the mindset behind these hires that Alleva has made.
This is like seeking out a specialist for your cancer, but the specialist has to be a cancer survivor himself. (???) Sentimentality kills.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89820 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:20 am to
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we hired a search firm


Lol. I was told don't worry, big programs hire search firms. Then Joe dick face comes out and says, "I am the search." Joe has not been shy about taking all the credit. Let's hope the ship doesn't go down in flames cus that weasel will be the first to jump.
This post was edited on 1/8/17 at 11:25 am
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:26 am to
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Why do we keep giving LSU coaching jobs to Louisiana natives who "deserve" it?
Insisting on hiring a local suggests that there is an element of control in play. It's like finding somebody from your hometown who's at the end of his rope and your offer is a last resort for him and he has no choice but to kiss the ring, since he won't look elsewhere and will stay by the front porch when you let him off the leash. Indentured servant, so to speak.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
31024 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:27 am to
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There were only 2 coaches ahead of Orgeron on LSU's want list and they chose to negotiate

Fixed for accuracy.
Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
Member since Feb 2008
7721 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 2:45 pm to
You really are bored. Get a life. Your opinion sucks
Posted by DontCare
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
2516 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 4:40 pm to
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tduecen

I like that in this thread, you're hating on (two) Louisiana coaches at LSU, but in the "would you be happy if Clemson won thread," you more or less say that you'll be cheering for bama because they have multiple players from Louisiana.

Interdasting.
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