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re: Why didn't MT make that pass to CJ late in the game?
Posted on 1/29/09 at 1:58 am to bbap
Posted on 1/29/09 at 1:58 am to bbap
tiger20,
The Nova game was the straw that broke the camel's back, as we probably could have started a mini run for the post season. It ranks in there with Wisconsin, Purdue, UAB, and the other gems. Inexcusable to lose that lead to Nova. Also, we should have beaten Arizona State in the Maui Inv.
The Nova game was the straw that broke the camel's back, as we probably could have started a mini run for the post season. It ranks in there with Wisconsin, Purdue, UAB, and the other gems. Inexcusable to lose that lead to Nova. Also, we should have beaten Arizona State in the Maui Inv.
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Posted on 1/29/09 at 1:59 am to bbap
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dont forget the 10-12(ive already forgetten the actual number) lead against ohio state with like 3 minutes to go
That was a fluke. Ohio State was 3-17 on 3 point shots then hit 4 in a row in the last few minutes while the Tigers missed several free throws. What should a coach do, change a defense that had worked for 37 minutes. He wasn't shooting the free throw either.
Posted on 1/29/09 at 2:05 am to PiscesTiger
quote:They were shothanded in teh front court with Taz and QT out and when Anthony Randolph fouled out Villanova was able to make a run.
The Nova game was the straw that broke the camel's back, as we probably could have started a mini run for the post season. It ranks in there with Wisconsin, Purdue, UAB, and the other gems. Inexcusable to lose that lead to Nova. Also, we should have beaten Arizona State in the Maui Inv
If you want to keep referencing the NCAA tourney losses then you need to reference victories over Duke, Texas ( twice), Texas A&M, etc. Take a look at some of Billy Donovan's NCAA losses from 2001-2005 until he got the right mix of players. He didn't have to deal with draconian sanctions. either.
Arizons State is a good team and features a great player in James Harden. Tigers were playing without All SEC Tasmin Mitchell.
Posted on 1/29/09 at 2:11 am to tiger20
After watching the replay twice I really don't think he saw CJ. He seemed really worried about Tennessee the players behind him and definitely never looked that way.
Posted on 1/29/09 at 2:17 am to tiger20
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It happens to all coaches and all teams at times.
stop changing the subject. you said it might not happen under brady. empirical evidence has proven that it already has, multiple times, and therefore there is no reason to think it wouldnt again.
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Roy Williams and Nrth Carolina lost an NCAA tourney game a couple of years ago when they lost about a 20 point lead and made 1 of their last 23 shots.
well lets see, williams' first year at unc was 2003-2004, that year they lost to texas in the tournament, and trailed for almost the entire game.
2004-2005: won it all
2005-2006: lost to george mason. largest lead was 14, early in the first half. actually trailed for most of the 2nd.
2006-2007: lost to georgetown in overtime. largest lead was 10 points, with 7 minutes left in regulation.
2007-2008: got destroyed by kansas, never led.
MORE bullshite from tiger20. is anyone surprised?
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Bruce Pearl adn Tennessee lost an 18 point lead to Ohio State.
that lead was last at 18 points before halftime, not with 6 minutes left in the game.
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Billy Donovan and florida lost a lead to South Carolina last week.
7 points.
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It will also happen to Trent Johnson one day.
probably so. it HAS happened to brady already
Posted on 1/29/09 at 2:23 am to tiger20
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That was a fluke.
of course it was, brady had nothing to do with that
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Ohio State was 3-17 on 3 point shots then hit 4 in a row in the last few minutes while the Tigers missed several free throws. What should a coach do, change a defense that had worked for 37 minutes.
yes. if something isnt working and its allowing ohio st to come back you change it. you thinking otherwise does a lot to explain why you think brady is a good basketball coach.
and ohio st's players making those shots is much more likely than 29% 3 pt shooter wayne chism going 4/6 from 3 pt range.
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He wasn't shooting the free throw either.
lsu shot 2 free throws in the last 9 minutes of that game. any other bullshite you care to make up tonight mr revisionist history?
This post was edited on 1/29/09 at 2:52 am
Posted on 1/29/09 at 2:28 am to bbap
it would be about 13-7
Posted on 1/29/09 at 2:35 am to tiger20
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They were shothanded in teh front court with Taz and QT out and when Anthony Randolph fouled out Villanova was able to make a run.
6'0 pg malcolm grant scored 14 of villanova's 20 points after ranolph fouled out. lack of inside post presence had NOTHING to do with that.
and lsu wasnt shorthanded tonight with no thornton and taz playing with 4 fouls the last 10 minutes of the game.
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If you want to keep referencing the NCAA tourney losses then you need to reference victories over Duke, Texas ( twice)
so 3 impressive tournament wins in 11 years compared to how many horrible losses?
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A&M
talk about a fluke
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Take a look at some of Billy Donovan's NCAA losses from 2001-2005
take a look at the national championship trophies sitting in florida's trophy case thanks to billy donovan.
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until he got the right mix of players.
who's fault is it that lsu never got the right mix of players, according to you.
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He didn't have to deal with draconian sanctions. either.
neither did brady for either 8 or 9 of his 11 years.
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Arizons State is a good team and features a great player in James Harden.
harden wasnt even asu's leading scorer in that game.
and arizona state was 19-11 last year, and 9-9 in the pac 10, which YOU said isnt even as good as the sec.
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Tigers were playing without All SEC Tasmin Mitchell.
they were playing with nba lottery pick anthony randolph.
This post was edited on 1/29/09 at 2:49 am
Posted on 1/29/09 at 2:44 am to JPLSU1981
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This is the correct answer. It drives me crazy when guys have an easy layup and try to pass or do something tricky and screw up the gimme 2pts. That said, it doesn't always work, as was in the case here.
i know what you are trying to say...but you are wrong, and its not close
it would have been a very easy pass. especially with the defender on his back like that...all MT had to do was pass, slow down (the defender has to slow down as well because he is behind him). making for an easy play for CJ. even without slowing him down, it would have been an easy jam for CJ
Posted on 1/29/09 at 3:58 am to TheBob
only thing i can think of is he was caught on the wrong foot when he was fixin to pass the ball...or maybe, since it was a 2 on 1 fast break he thought if he missed the shot cj would be there to clean up the glass. or maybe he was gona throw it off the backboard to cj. idk i'm just guessing. a lot can go on in a players head in a split second.
Posted on 1/29/09 at 6:25 am to Gugich22
BALL HOG
Posted on 1/29/09 at 6:40 am to bbap
quote:Funny thing is that this is exactly how a player is defined on the rant. One play out of the hundreds of great one and now we have to hear the rantards for probably the rest of the season harping on it. If he doesn't do then 'I bet Trent broke him of that habit by making him run bleachers and pick up trash for a week; that's the way i would have handled it'
the correct answer was he made a mistake not passing it up. no question about it. if he had it to all over again im sure he would have. but frick it we won.
Posted on 1/29/09 at 6:56 am to drexyl
looked like MT was trying to get a foul on the layup for a 3 pt plsy. Looked back to find the defender and contorted his body in anticipation....that being said he should have passed it to CJ
Posted on 1/29/09 at 7:20 am to danfraz
First, go make a f'n Brady alter thread Tiger20. He doesn't work here anymore.
As for the MT play, I think he simply didn't want to make a mistake by throwing a bad pass, so instead decided just to keep it. It was obviously the wrong decision, but I can understand it at that moment in the game.
As for the MT play, I think he simply didn't want to make a mistake by throwing a bad pass, so instead decided just to keep it. It was obviously the wrong decision, but I can understand it at that moment in the game.
Posted on 1/29/09 at 7:25 am to ROUSTER
are yall fricking kidding me. all of these excuses? he wanted his 30 PERIOD
Posted on 1/29/09 at 7:42 am to NOSTRODAMUS
First off, Marcus was not trying to "get his 30" or hogging the ball on that play. When I first watched the play I thought he should have made the pass but after watching the replay, Marcus would have had to make the pass right as he got the ball and I don't think he saw Chris Johnson that soon. Chris should have darted down the court, but he did not do that. He sort of lagged back waiting for a pass I assume. After one dribble, Marcus had basically caught him at mid court. There was no point in a guard almost handing the ball to a big man at mid court on a break. Chris did sprint down court though and filled the lane but any sort of alley oop or fancy pass would not have been high percentage. LSU got 2 foul shots and got the 2 points anyway. LSU got a great victory and Marcus and Chris were the main reasons why. Marcus has been playing great for 3 weeks now. And Chris hasn't played that well in almost a year.
GEAUX TIGERS !!!
GEAUX TIGERS !!!
Posted on 1/29/09 at 9:17 am to Tigereye30
"Marcus would [and I say should] have had to make the pass right as he got the ball and I don't think he saw Chris Johnson that soon."
I am pretty sure this is correct. By the time MT appeared to see Johnson, they were almost on top of each other. It was a little bit of an awkward looking play, but those things happen, especially in free-flow situations that come after loose balls, etc. I disagree with those who saw the play as "hogging."
I am pretty sure this is correct. By the time MT appeared to see Johnson, they were almost on top of each other. It was a little bit of an awkward looking play, but those things happen, especially in free-flow situations that come after loose balls, etc. I disagree with those who saw the play as "hogging."
Posted on 1/29/09 at 10:09 am to JPLSU1981
Thorton was trying to draw the foul and get the bucket... hello, it was pretty obvious, but he should have passed i agree...
Posted on 1/29/09 at 10:23 am to latiger09
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CJ wasn't that far ahead of him.
All thorton had to do was just lob it to CJ in stride. At that point CJ would just jump high into the air and then wait for all the defenders near him to fall back to the ground, then he would descend for the dunk.
Posted on 1/29/09 at 10:37 am to latiger09
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A&M
talk about a fluke
We needed a NBA 3 over a 6'10" Center and a no call on an inbounds pass mugging to win that game. Brady is fired after the 2006 season if we don't win that game.
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