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re: Why didn't MT make that pass to CJ late in the game?
Posted on 1/30/09 at 12:34 am to TigerRagAndrew
Posted on 1/30/09 at 12:34 am to TigerRagAndrew
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We needed a NBA 3 over a 6'10" Center and a no call on an inbounds pass mugging to win that game. Brady is fired after the 2006 season if we don't win that game
You do realize that 5 to 10 NCAA tourney games each year are decided by a last second shot or a big play near the end of the game. Darrel Mitchell's winning shot was no more a fluke than any of the other events that occur in March Madness. Now if he had overshot the goal and banked it in like the Georgetown player who sent LSU packing in 1988 that might be a different story.
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Posted on 1/30/09 at 1:24 am to latiger09
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stop changing the subject. you said it might not happen under brady. empirical evidence has proven that it already has, multiple times, and therefore there is no reason to think it wouldnt again.
I said it may not have occurred under Brady which is true. H e did not coach thta game so no one knows what would or would not have occurred.
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well lets see, williams' first year at unc was 2003-2004, that year they lost to texas in the tournament, and trailed for almost the entire game.
2004-2005: won it all
2005-2006: lost to george mason. largest lead was 14, early in the first half. actually trailed for most of the 2nd.
2006-2007: lost to georgetown in overtime. largest lead was 10 points, with 7 minutes left in regulation.
2007-2008: got destroyed by kansas, never led.
My point was proven.
What difference does it make whether they lost a 14 or 20 point lead. They still lost a double digit lead and shot 1 for 23. Should one assume they were running poor offense?
Posted on 1/30/09 at 1:31 am to Gugich22
re-watching it, it appeared that Thornton kept looking left and over his left shoulder. He may not have seen Johnson.
Posted on 1/30/09 at 1:44 am to tiger20
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You do realize that 5 to 10 NCAA tourney games each year are decided by a last second shot or a big play near the end of the game.
you dumbass. you do realize that leaving a 40% 3 pt shooter wide open leads to a high probability of them making the shot right? how in the hell is ohio st's comeback win over lsu a fluke, but darrel mitchell's prayer when lsu shouldnt have had the ball in the first place isnt?
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Darrel Mitchell's winning shot was no more a fluke than any of the other events that occur in March Madness. Now if he had overshot the goal and banked it in like the Georgetown player who sent LSU packing in 1988 that might be a different story.
it really is hard to imagine a person being as stupid as you. it really, really is. its time to bring the list back.
Posted on 1/30/09 at 1:52 am to tiger20
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I said it may not have occurred under Brady which is true.
its also true that pigs may one day fly. that doesnt mean its ever going to happen.
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H e did not coach thta game
thank god
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so no one knows what would or would not have occurred.
but people do know that past events and the fact that brady is a bad coach make the probability of tennessee coming back should brady have still been here extremely high.
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My point was proven.
no it wasnt you dumbass. your point doesnt even exist. north carolina never blew a 20 point lead in the tournament under roy williams in the final minutes of a game. its just more bullshite from you.
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What difference does it make whether they lost a 14 or 20 point lead.
because you said it was a 20 point lead you fricking moron. and it was a 14 point lead IN THE FIRST HALF, not an 18 point lead with 6 minutes left in the game.
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They still lost a double digit lead and shot 1 for 23.
once again, you fricking moron, that wasnt even the same game.
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Should one assume they were running poor offense?
no, because we know what north carolina's offense looks like under roy williams. and we know its not a poor offense. it involved running plays, setting screens, cutting to the basket, flashing to the middle, posting people up, and taking good shots. its won them a championship and made them a perennial top 5 team. we also know what lsu's "offense" looked like under brady, and we know it was a terrible offense, or basically not an offense at all. it was guys standing behind the 3 point line throwing the ball around to each other while the shot clock ran down and throwing up a ridiculous shot.
Posted on 1/30/09 at 1:59 am to tiger20
here it is, for everyone to see.
if people were to believe everything tiger20 has said on this board, all of the following would be true:
1. john brady has a history of signing louisiana stars, despite missing on the top recruit in the state for last 3 years.
2. the lsu coaches CHOSE not to sign any recuits in the class of 2006, despite offering a scholarship, heavily recruiting, and hosting at least 4 different recruits for official visits that year.
3. the sec is a better basketball conference than the big east.
4. john brady is a better coach than rick barnes and billy gillespie.
6. anthony randolph is from louisiana,
7. john brady actually recruited lacedarius dunn and tweety carter, when both are on record stating they hardly ever or never heard from lsu.
8. lsu's probation lasted through at least 2003, even though it ended in 2001.
9. john brady is a better coach than Billy Donovan, Jim Calhoun, Lute Olson, Jim Beilen, Thad Matta, Nolan Richardson, Steve Alford, Tubby Smith, Mark Gottfried, Rick Stansbury, Bruce Pearl, Eddie Sutton, Stan Heath, Jim Harrick, Rick Majerius, Mike Anderson,Kevin Stallings
10. tiger20 posts facts, despite the 9 items above and many more still to come.
11. 2006-2007 lsu basketball season was not a failure.
12. 2007-2008 lsu basketball season was not a failure.
13. the "lsu admitting department" actually exists.
14. keith gallon was coming to lsu if brady was still here.
15. karron johnson was coming to lsu if brady was still here.
16. dj augustin committed to texas in the summer of 2005.
17. november is in the summer.
18. john brady running off 40 players in 11 years is normal and actually a good thing.
19. dameon mason transferred to lsu after dj augustin committed to texas, despite the fact that mason transferred in june of 2005 and augustin committed in november 2005.
20. brady did not recruit darrell arthur and scottie reynolds, despite offering both of them scholarships, recruiting both of them heavily, and hosting both of them on campus for official visits on the same weekend.
21. dj augustin committed to texas immediately after he moved to texas because of katrina, despite the fact that he committed on novemer 7th or 8th, and katrina happened in august.
22. josh white has not done anything against major teams in college, despite going for 25 points on 8/13 fg and 3/4 3pt against oklahoma state, and 28 points on 8/14 fg and 6/9 3pt against texas
23. lsu is a better basketball program currently than usc
24. lsu is a better basketball program currently than baylor.
25. junior terry martin and his 8.3 ppg, 2.5 rpg, .372 fg%, .305 3pt% is better than soph dwight lewis and his dwight lewis as a soph: 10.8 ppg, 2.4 rpg, .454 fg%, .323 3pt%
26. junior terry martin and his 8.3 ppg, 2.5 rpg, .372 fg%, .305 3pt% is better than soph
tweety carter and his 9.6 ppg, 2.8 ast, 1.0 stl, .426 fg%, .404 3pt%
27. redshirt freshman garrett temple and his 5.1 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 2.8 apg, 1.41 ast/to, 1.1 stl, .335 fg%, .248 3pt% is better than true freshman ryan francis and his 7.1 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 3.7 apg, 1.6/1 ast/to, 1.6 stl, .397 fg%, .279 3pt%
28. dwight lewis was afraid of Magnum Rolle, Chris Johnson, Glenn Davis, Tyrus Thomas, Darnell Lazare, and Kentrell Gransberry, despite the fact that none of them would have any impact on his playing time.
29. dwight lewis knew anthony randolph would be going to lsu a year after he did, and was afraid to sign with lsu because of this.
30. dwight lewis went to kansas.
31. chris johnson is equal to if not better than joakim noah.
32. chris johnson has the skillset of a post player and belongs in the post.
33. lsu did not want verice cloyd, despite the fact that they heavily recruited him, offered him a scholarship, and hosted him for an official visit.
34. south carolina is not in the south.
35. south carolina was interested in john brady, despite never contacting him, much less interviewing him, about their job
if people were to believe everything tiger20 has said on this board, all of the following would be true:
1. john brady has a history of signing louisiana stars, despite missing on the top recruit in the state for last 3 years.
2. the lsu coaches CHOSE not to sign any recuits in the class of 2006, despite offering a scholarship, heavily recruiting, and hosting at least 4 different recruits for official visits that year.
3. the sec is a better basketball conference than the big east.
4. john brady is a better coach than rick barnes and billy gillespie.
6. anthony randolph is from louisiana,
7. john brady actually recruited lacedarius dunn and tweety carter, when both are on record stating they hardly ever or never heard from lsu.
8. lsu's probation lasted through at least 2003, even though it ended in 2001.
9. john brady is a better coach than Billy Donovan, Jim Calhoun, Lute Olson, Jim Beilen, Thad Matta, Nolan Richardson, Steve Alford, Tubby Smith, Mark Gottfried, Rick Stansbury, Bruce Pearl, Eddie Sutton, Stan Heath, Jim Harrick, Rick Majerius, Mike Anderson,Kevin Stallings
10. tiger20 posts facts, despite the 9 items above and many more still to come.
11. 2006-2007 lsu basketball season was not a failure.
12. 2007-2008 lsu basketball season was not a failure.
13. the "lsu admitting department" actually exists.
14. keith gallon was coming to lsu if brady was still here.
15. karron johnson was coming to lsu if brady was still here.
16. dj augustin committed to texas in the summer of 2005.
17. november is in the summer.
18. john brady running off 40 players in 11 years is normal and actually a good thing.
19. dameon mason transferred to lsu after dj augustin committed to texas, despite the fact that mason transferred in june of 2005 and augustin committed in november 2005.
20. brady did not recruit darrell arthur and scottie reynolds, despite offering both of them scholarships, recruiting both of them heavily, and hosting both of them on campus for official visits on the same weekend.
21. dj augustin committed to texas immediately after he moved to texas because of katrina, despite the fact that he committed on novemer 7th or 8th, and katrina happened in august.
22. josh white has not done anything against major teams in college, despite going for 25 points on 8/13 fg and 3/4 3pt against oklahoma state, and 28 points on 8/14 fg and 6/9 3pt against texas
23. lsu is a better basketball program currently than usc
24. lsu is a better basketball program currently than baylor.
25. junior terry martin and his 8.3 ppg, 2.5 rpg, .372 fg%, .305 3pt% is better than soph dwight lewis and his dwight lewis as a soph: 10.8 ppg, 2.4 rpg, .454 fg%, .323 3pt%
26. junior terry martin and his 8.3 ppg, 2.5 rpg, .372 fg%, .305 3pt% is better than soph
tweety carter and his 9.6 ppg, 2.8 ast, 1.0 stl, .426 fg%, .404 3pt%
27. redshirt freshman garrett temple and his 5.1 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 2.8 apg, 1.41 ast/to, 1.1 stl, .335 fg%, .248 3pt% is better than true freshman ryan francis and his 7.1 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 3.7 apg, 1.6/1 ast/to, 1.6 stl, .397 fg%, .279 3pt%
28. dwight lewis was afraid of Magnum Rolle, Chris Johnson, Glenn Davis, Tyrus Thomas, Darnell Lazare, and Kentrell Gransberry, despite the fact that none of them would have any impact on his playing time.
29. dwight lewis knew anthony randolph would be going to lsu a year after he did, and was afraid to sign with lsu because of this.
30. dwight lewis went to kansas.
31. chris johnson is equal to if not better than joakim noah.
32. chris johnson has the skillset of a post player and belongs in the post.
33. lsu did not want verice cloyd, despite the fact that they heavily recruited him, offered him a scholarship, and hosted him for an official visit.
34. south carolina is not in the south.
35. south carolina was interested in john brady, despite never contacting him, much less interviewing him, about their job
This post was edited on 1/30/09 at 2:01 am
Posted on 1/30/09 at 2:00 am to latiger09
36. john brady wanted to go to arkansas state.
37. john brady is a better coach than tim floyd.
38. baylor is not currently on probation.
39. the sec is a better basketball conference than the big 12.
40. darrell arthur signed with oklahoma.
41. kenneth cooper was didnt commit to lsu because he was afraid of the number of big men on lsu's roster, yet he signed with oklahoma state despite them having more big men than lsu on their roster.
42. lsu has lost more players to the nba than usc.
43. chris johnson is/was an emerging star.
44. lsu has better basketball players than usc and kansas.
45. brady developed chris johnson, stromile swift, and tyrus thomas at lsu.
46. brady signed terry martin out of high school, despite the fact that terry martin signed with texas tech out of high school.
47. dwight lewis committed to kansas in the fall, even though he committed in may.
48. may is in the fall.
49. dwight lewis said that lsu had better players than kansas or usc, despite there being no actual proof of him saying this.
50. only all americans are significant contributor's in college basketball.
51. lsu's probation was worse and more severe than the probation baylor is still currently under.
52. billy Donovan has a higher attrition rate than john brady.
53. tony Gipson left lsu because of academics.
54. tony Gipson never rejoined the lsu basketball team in 2004.
55. teddy Gipson played basketball at lsu.
56. tony Gipson transferred to another school after leaving lsu.
57. mildon ambres was not promised a scholarship after walking on to the team due to lack of scholarships.
58. tiger20 knows more than lsusports.net
59. tiger20 knows more than rivals.com
60. tiger20 knows more than usa today
61. rivals.com fabricates stories about lsu basketball players
62. usa today fabricates stories about lsu basketball players
63. a player that plays in exhibition games cannot redshirt.
64. alex farrer did not redshirt at lsu.
65. a players pro performance is always an accurate indicator of how good he was in college.
66. lsu only signed 12 players from 2003-2007, despite the fact that they actually signed 18.
67. only 7 players that were part of the 2003-2007 recruiting classes left lsu early, despite the fact that 9 players from those classes left lsu early.
68. losing an 18 point lead with 6 minutes left in the game is equally as bad as losing a 14 point lead with 6 minutes left in the first half.
69. ohio st’s comeback win over lsu was a fluke, but Darrell mitchell’s 3 point shot against texas a&m was not.
70. lsu lost to ohio st because they did not make free throws, despite the fact that they only shot 2 free throws in the last 9 minutes of the game.
71. north Carolina has blown a 20 point lead in the tournament under roy Williams, despite the fact that the biggest lead they’ve blown was 14.
72. villanova came back on lsu in 2007 because lsu’s big men were in foul trouble, despite the fact that most of villanova’s points in the comeback were scored by a backup point guard.
37. john brady is a better coach than tim floyd.
38. baylor is not currently on probation.
39. the sec is a better basketball conference than the big 12.
40. darrell arthur signed with oklahoma.
41. kenneth cooper was didnt commit to lsu because he was afraid of the number of big men on lsu's roster, yet he signed with oklahoma state despite them having more big men than lsu on their roster.
42. lsu has lost more players to the nba than usc.
43. chris johnson is/was an emerging star.
44. lsu has better basketball players than usc and kansas.
45. brady developed chris johnson, stromile swift, and tyrus thomas at lsu.
46. brady signed terry martin out of high school, despite the fact that terry martin signed with texas tech out of high school.
47. dwight lewis committed to kansas in the fall, even though he committed in may.
48. may is in the fall.
49. dwight lewis said that lsu had better players than kansas or usc, despite there being no actual proof of him saying this.
50. only all americans are significant contributor's in college basketball.
51. lsu's probation was worse and more severe than the probation baylor is still currently under.
52. billy Donovan has a higher attrition rate than john brady.
53. tony Gipson left lsu because of academics.
54. tony Gipson never rejoined the lsu basketball team in 2004.
55. teddy Gipson played basketball at lsu.
56. tony Gipson transferred to another school after leaving lsu.
57. mildon ambres was not promised a scholarship after walking on to the team due to lack of scholarships.
58. tiger20 knows more than lsusports.net
59. tiger20 knows more than rivals.com
60. tiger20 knows more than usa today
61. rivals.com fabricates stories about lsu basketball players
62. usa today fabricates stories about lsu basketball players
63. a player that plays in exhibition games cannot redshirt.
64. alex farrer did not redshirt at lsu.
65. a players pro performance is always an accurate indicator of how good he was in college.
66. lsu only signed 12 players from 2003-2007, despite the fact that they actually signed 18.
67. only 7 players that were part of the 2003-2007 recruiting classes left lsu early, despite the fact that 9 players from those classes left lsu early.
68. losing an 18 point lead with 6 minutes left in the game is equally as bad as losing a 14 point lead with 6 minutes left in the first half.
69. ohio st’s comeback win over lsu was a fluke, but Darrell mitchell’s 3 point shot against texas a&m was not.
70. lsu lost to ohio st because they did not make free throws, despite the fact that they only shot 2 free throws in the last 9 minutes of the game.
71. north Carolina has blown a 20 point lead in the tournament under roy Williams, despite the fact that the biggest lead they’ve blown was 14.
72. villanova came back on lsu in 2007 because lsu’s big men were in foul trouble, despite the fact that most of villanova’s points in the comeback were scored by a backup point guard.
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