- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Who's Calling Plays - Ensminger or Brady?
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:44 pm to SammyTiger
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:44 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
What I find Funny is that when we call someone a system QB, we sorta accept the idea that there are offensive systems that work are pretty easy for even not the most brilliant players to run.
But we don’t accept the concept that coaches can learn these systems pretty quickly too.
I think coaches can absolutely learn certain systems better and faster than others. Mike Leach's coaching tree proves that.
How does that fit into this discussion?
This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 12:46 pm
1
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:44 pm to Goldrush25
quote:
think Dino Babers is looking pretty smart right now
Correct...
quote:
That's precisely how you know if a coach has the goods. Any half-decent coach should be able to do well with elite talent. What do you do with mediocre/lesser talent demonstrates a coach's talent.
Tons of evidence to support this. Miles is a prime example... watch what he does with Kansas. Kansas will be Kansas. Now if he turns it into a 9-4 team his reputation goes back up... as of now, the narrative is LSU made miles not the other way around. Saban has buoy three programs, two into national title programs. That’s validation...
I see everyday coaches taking great players and wining with them but they can’t make an avg player a good one. That’s not coaching. That’s recruiting...
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:46 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
That's not the point.
How are you 100% sure Brady isn't a young mind who can quickly make the transition?
No, THAT isn’t the point.
How can I or O or U (
) or anyone else be 100% sure of anything regarding a hire?? The point is O said for all the world to see point blank that he was going to bring in the best OC and hire the best coaches to fix the one thing that has been holding LSU back for a decade and banking on a glorified NFL intern simply isn’t that.
I seem to remember a previous coach getting blasted to this day for LYING to the AD, fans, team etc and yet this coach isn’t called out in the same way by those who screamed the loudest before.
That’s the point.
This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:47 pm to Goldrush25
I think Knowing a system is the most important part of being an OC.
It’s like counting cards. If you really know the numbers on everything the game dictates the next move not instinct or experience.
Also I think Ensminger is overrated as a play caller. Mostly because the play calling was SO bad before him.
It’s like counting cards. If you really know the numbers on everything the game dictates the next move not instinct or experience.
Also I think Ensminger is overrated as a play caller. Mostly because the play calling was SO bad before him.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:48 pm to Tiger Voodoo
quote:
How can I or O or U ( ) or anyone else be 100% sure of anything regarding a hire??
You sure seem pretty sure.
You should prob think before you write dumb shite
quote:
The point is O said for all the world to see point blank that he was going to bring in the best OC and hire the best coaches to fix the one thing that has been holding LSU back for a decade and banking on a glorified NFL intern simply isn’t that
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:50 pm to Tiger Voodoo
quote:
The point is O said for all the world to see point blank that he was going to bring in the best OC and hire the best coaches to fix the one thing that has been holding LSU back for a decade and banking on a glorified NFL intern simply isn’t that.
Unless he is.
That’s sorta the point. If he’s the next Lincoln Riley how is this not a fricking homerun from the on deck circle?
Given that most of the top Offensive minds are either HC or radioactive (RIP Kendal Briles Pipedream) I like the gamble
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:50 pm to Tiger Voodoo
quote:
How can I or O or U ( ) or anyone else be 100% sure of anything regarding a hire??
Maybe go back and review what you wrote
You seemed pretty damn sure. quote:
And if he’s calling plays this year O and his whole staff will be gone a year after Burrow
This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:54 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
The point is O said for all the world to see point blank that he was going to bring in the best OC and hire the best coaches to fix the one thing that has been holding LSU back for a decade and banking on a glorified NFL intern simply isn’t that
I mean based what we do know about him, which is his experience, Joe Brady probably isn't the best OC or OC in waiting, whatever you want to call him, that we could hire.
We don't know it for sure but there are guys out there with actual playcalling experience that we could've hired. Do we agree that those with playcalling experience are usually more successful than those without playcalling experience?
This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 8/14/19 at 1:09 pm to Goldrush25
quote:
We don't know it for sure but there are guys out there with actual playcalling experience that we could've hired
Look, if you want to go by the premise that “nobody knows”, then stick with that.
If you want to pick a side, then go with that.
Don’t do both. You just look stupid.
Do I think play calling experience matters? Somewhat. It looks good on a resume’ mainly.
But I’m also a forward thinker. At some point of time, every good play caller will have an inaugural season. There are many more important things with calling plays other than simply having experience doing so.
This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 8/14/19 at 1:14 pm to SammyTiger
Who cares who is calling the plays as long as they work????????
You people bring up the most irrelevant shite I have ever seen.................
You people bring up the most irrelevant shite I have ever seen.................
Posted on 8/14/19 at 1:15 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
Do I think play calling experience matters? Somewhat. It looks good on a resume’ mainly.
this is like me interviewing to be a chef that's never cooked. But i watched my mom cook a lot.
that would probably be fine at Mcdonalds, but not a 4 star restaurant
Posted on 8/14/19 at 1:15 pm to Lsualum2017
quote:
According to O, Brady will have a play ready for E and it’s up to him to play it or not
And then coach O has to approve?
I see a lot of delay of game penalties in our future.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 1:16 pm to SportTiger1
If your making subway sandwiches how much experience do you need though?
Posted on 8/14/19 at 1:18 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
quote:
And then coach O has to approve? I see a lot of delay of game penalties in our future.
This is a great point.............. This team should be ready to go right out of the huddle with a senior QB and experienced people around him... You can change the offense all you want but if you are NOT fluid you will get exposed...........
Posted on 8/14/19 at 1:18 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
At some point of time, every good play caller will have an inaugural season
And all I'm saying is that I'd rather someone prove their playcalling chops at somewhere other than the program I follow before we hire them.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 1:20 pm to Goldrush25
quote:
And all I'm saying is that I'd rather someone prove their playcalling chops at somewhere other than the program I follow before we hire them.
Would you have been pissed had Miles hired Riley in 2010?
Posted on 8/14/19 at 1:20 pm to SportTiger1
quote:
this is like me interviewing to be a chef that's never cooked. But i watched my mom cook a lot.
that would probably be fine at Mcdonalds, but not a 4 star restaurant
Nah it’s more like hiring a sous chef that’s more advanced that most chefs his age. He retains information at a high level & is one who understands concepts that leads to a great product.
Even so, not sure how many times this needs to be reiterated, but joe Brady is not LSU’s offensive coordinator.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 1:23 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Would you have been pissed had Miles hired Riley in 2010?
I would have called it a pretty big roll of the dice. And it would have been at that point.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 1:23 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Would you have been pissed had Miles hired Riley in 2010?
As an OC, for the level of program we had at the time? That would've been a risky hire.
And it seems the college world agreed. That's why he started out at ECU. I'm not going to change my rationale simply because I know how he turned out.
This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 8/14/19 at 1:25 pm to Goldrush25
quote:
That would've been a risky hire.
Sure
But sometimes risky hires pay off.
Page 7 of 13
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News