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re: Who's Calling Plays - Ensminger or Brady?
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:14 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:14 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Riley got his first fulltime assistant job two years before he was named OC at ECU.
Right. ECU. In Conference USA/AAC. He proved his worth there and was hired at OU to run their offense. Thanks for proving my point
This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 12:15 pm
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Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:14 pm to SammyTiger
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Sometimes you end up on them pretty quick.
Im pretty sure that's where we are with Brady. I think he will be full time OC in the near future, unless he dogs it this season.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Kingsbury is way overrated. Hell, Kiffin is better.
okay?
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:20 pm to RogerTheShrubber
That’s probably a fun point to argue.
Kiffin at his best got to coach 2000s USC and 2010s Alabama. He also had Kendal Briles for a year at FAU (who eventually will be a HC at some school that decides a few bad article is worth winning a lot of games)
Kingsbury has never had that amount of talent, but his offenses have always been prolific.
Kiffin at his best got to coach 2000s USC and 2010s Alabama. He also had Kendal Briles for a year at FAU (who eventually will be a HC at some school that decides a few bad article is worth winning a lot of games)
Kingsbury has never had that amount of talent, but his offenses have always been prolific.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:20 pm to lsu2006
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ight. ECU. In Conference USA/AAC. He proved his worth there and was hired at OU to run their offense. Thanks for proving my point
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:21 pm to lsu2006
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Right. ECU. In Conference USA/AAC. He proved his worth there and was hired at OU to run their offense. Thanks for proving my point
But if you had a time machine, don’t you hire Riley from Texas Tech? Get way ahead of the curve?
This is a gamble, but It’s better than a safe pick.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:22 pm to lsu2006
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He proved his worth there
I imagine he would have done just fine at OU. shite, Brady may not be the OC of the future here, but I'll bet he is. But he may end up at UCU or Kansas.
We've identified a guy, we will see if he's worth the hype.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:22 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Would be an absolute joke
How do you know?
Well it certainly appears to be the status quo at LSU lately to hire people not based on their history, but on hopin’ and prayin’, so I guess it’s no joke at all
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:24 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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Well it certainly appears to be the status quo at LSU lately to hire people not based on their history, but on hopin’ and prayin’, so I guess it’s no joke at all
That's not the point.
How are you 100% sure Brady isn't a young mind who can quickly make the transition?
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:24 pm to lsu2006
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Offensive assistant at Texas Tech and East Carolina for 12 years before being name OC at OU
Yea, only 4 years of coaching before actually calling plays though.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:24 pm to SportTiger1
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Kingsbury isn't even comparable to Bradys jump...
As coach:
Houston (2008–2009) - Offensive quality control coach
Houston (2010–2011)- Co-Offensive coordinator & quarterbacks coach
Texas A&M (2012)-Offensive coordinator & quarterbacks coach
Texas Tech (2013–2018)-Head coach
Arizona Cardinals (2019–present)Head coach
Given when he started coaching, become an OC at this level of program this soon would be a relatively quick jump for any coach. It's definitely not the norm.
I think this is all a huge assumption anyway. We don't know the extent to which he'll be involved once the bullets start flying, and I certainly don't think him being OC next year is anywhere near a done deal.
This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:24 pm to Tiger Voodoo
I think even you have to admit there is a difference between bad experience and no experience.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:24 pm to SammyTiger
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But if you had a time machine, don’t you hire Riley from Texas Tech? Get way ahead of the curve?
If I can go back in time knowing what I know now about Riley? Uh yea of course. No shite
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This is a gamble, but It’s better than a safe pick.
I don't follow.
For the record, I don't think bringing Brady in as a basic offensive assistant who can be in Ensminger's ear is much of a gamble at all. I think people just assuming it is a foregone conclusion that we are handing over the keys to the offense to Brady are being premature and that would be a gamble.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:25 pm to Lester Earl
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Yea, only 4 years of coaching before actually calling plays though.
Before calling plays at ECU. He was OC/QB coach at ECU for 5 years before going to OU.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:26 pm to lsu2006
I think Brady makes sense if you assume we were never going to fire E. Which I think Was the situation.
He’s young enough to agree to a OCIW position.
I think He’ll have a lot of leeway.
He’s young enough to agree to a OCIW position.
I think He’ll have a lot of leeway.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:28 pm to lsu2006
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If I can go back in time knowing what I know now about Riley? Uh yea of course. No shite
Cool.
I would too. As would most.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:34 pm to SportTiger1
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was specfically referring to Roger saying he is the defacto co-OC, which i think +50% of our fanbase agrees with.
The more I think about it, Brady was brought in to design plays for a new type of offense we want to run. Slinger will use these plays as the play caller. Brady will give input based on what is best for that down & distance, and will be instrumental in developing game plans & helping with in-game adjustments
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:35 pm to RogerTheShrubber
What I find Funny is that when we call someone a system QB, we sorta accept the idea that there are offensive systems that work are pretty easy for even not the most brilliant players to run.
But we don’t accept the concept that coaches can learn these systems pretty quickly too.
But we don’t accept the concept that coaches can learn these systems pretty quickly too.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:36 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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How are you 100% sure Brady isn't a young mind who can quickly make the transition?
I certainly never would argue that. But I would argue it's a gamble. Of course any hire is a gamble, but it's less of a gamble if the guy you're hiring to call plays has more proven experience in calling plays.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:37 pm to lsu2006
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I certainly never would argue that. But I would argue it's a gamble.
Well, the guy I'm having this conversation said if that happened that this whole staff would get fired.
So I'm trying to see what he knows about Brady that makes him certain it's a failure.
Im guessing there will be a transition, Co-OC. Something like that first.
This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 12:45 pm
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