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re: Who will have the greater career at LSU Les or Orgeron

Posted on 6/11/19 at 6:55 pm to
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
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Posted on 6/11/19 at 6:55 pm to
I notice he added nothing to back up his assertions.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/11/19 at 6:55 pm to
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Talk down about the coach at LSU
Funny, I thought the OP was about 2 guys, BOTH "the coach at LSU", and who will have the greater career at LSU.

Seems like talking down about the previous guy (who won 3 SEC titles and a national title, and played for 1 more of each) is fine.

Les had 11 full seasons. 5 finished with 2 or less losses. O has yet to reach that level. 8 finished with 3 or less losses, O has done that once.

So, let's be fair and give O 9 more years, he needs to have 7 more seasons equal to last season or better. Needs to make the SEC championship 4 of those years, win 3 of those, make it to the national championship game twice and win one.
THAT will give him an LSU career equal to Miles. Not better, equal.

And like I said in a previous post, I hope he does it. Not for him, but for me as a fan. He's got to step it up to do so.

Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 6/11/19 at 6:58 pm to
Orgeron definitely has the potential to have a better career at LSU than miles did.

With the way he is attacking recruiting nationwide, along with the emphasis on Louisiana kids, success will open up a new era for LSU football.3nk
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 7:08 pm
Posted by LSUERDOC
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 6/11/19 at 7:01 pm to
Lol. O won’t win the west, much less a national title.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 7:16 pm to
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He's winning at the same rate of the guy we fired, not the Mad Hatter that won a NC and played in another.
Not true. O is winning at a higher rate since taking over.

Coach O has been LSUs HC for 34 games.

In O's 34 games he is:
25-9 - 73.5%

In Miles' last 34 games he was :
23-11 - 67.6%


Miles didn't get fired for his good years. He got fired for being too stubborn to change his offense - and the resulting slump his teams were in.
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 7:26 pm
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 6/11/19 at 7:31 pm to
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With the way he is attacking recruiting nationwide

Just not on the offensive or defensive lines
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 7:32 pm to
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In Miles' last 34 games

Weird that you’d compare O’s first 34 to Miles’ last. Almost as if it was specifically crafted to make O look better.

ETA: it’s also hilarious that O is a whopping TWO games better than Miles’ “bad years” lmao
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 7:34 pm
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/11/19 at 7:38 pm to
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Coach O has been LSUs HC for 34 games.


So wait...O is now going into his 4th season as HC?
Because all you Obots kept saying the interim year doesn’t count. Which is it?
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 6/11/19 at 7:52 pm to
Ban this alter please
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 7:58 pm to
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Weird that you’d compare O’s first 34 to Miles’ last. Almost as if it was specifically crafted to make O look better.

ETA: it’s also hilarious that O is a whopping TWO games better than Miles’ “bad years” lmao

Not weird at all. Apples to apples. Both coach's most recent sample.

And there is a big difference between 73.5% and 67.6% (like having the job, or getting fired)
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 6/11/19 at 8:04 pm to
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Just not on the offensive or defensive lines

Ika?
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 8:51 pm to
It’s a little thought provoking to realize that Miles worse years has been coach O’s best Years.
Posted by Tiger2424
Member since Nov 2015
1203 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 8:57 pm to
Sounds like you are trying to devalue Les Miles accomplishments and over value Orgeron

Battled him from day 1?
Got his arse kicked 29-0 that’s not a battle that’s a straight up arse whipping.
Posted by p&g
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 6/11/19 at 9:05 pm to
I hope swamp king.


For no other reason to watch the crybaby negatards in this board melt.
Posted by cj35
Member since Jan 2014
6153 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 9:11 pm to
Les without a doubt.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 9:23 pm to


its amazing that 2 games is the difference between getting fired and you thinking a coach is doung an amazing job.

its almost like youre biased as frick
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 9:24 pm to
quote:

For no other reason to watch the crybaby negatards in this board melt.


well you and your ,only O fan, buddies have completely changed what constitutes a successful season at lsu.
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 9:31 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 9:25 pm to
quote:

With the way he is attacking recruiting nationwide, along with the emphasis on Louisiana kids, success will open up a new era for LSU football.3nk


he is averaging the 4th best class in the sec over his classes.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70764 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 9:30 pm to
Whichever the current argument calls for. These people tend to flip flop on everything and contradict their own post without any thought or hesitation.
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 9:36 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 9:37 pm to
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Not weird at all. Apples to apples. Both coach's most recent sample. 


except this thread isnt about O barely being better than the results that unanimously made lsu fans want to move on from Miles.

this thread is about whether or not O will finish his lsu career with a top win% in sec history,2 sec titles,3 west titles, a national title,another title game appearance ,most top 25,top 20,top 15,top 10, and top 5 finishes in lsu history.


as of right now lsu is still....

losing to bama( havent had a lead for a single second since you know who was fired)
losing to multiple other inferior teams
having a shite offense(except now those offenses are even less productive than Miles' offenses. in 2 years O has decimated the lsu run game)
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