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re: Who will admit O has exceeded expectations and is an upgrade from Les?

Posted on 5/2/19 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 12:38 pm to
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But we wasted a season moving the offense forward with the Canada hire. We scrapped what all the newer players we're learning to start over again. It was a wasted season.




If a coach isn't a good fit with the staff we should keep him or cut our losses?

Never mind you are a Miles fanboy and we know Miles kept guys when he should've replaced them
Posted by atltiger6487
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 12:50 pm to
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What is the evidence? be careful you might just admit that the program is in a better place than it was 3 years ago

Miles' last full year (2015), we went 9-3 overall (would've been 10-3 but McNeese was cancelled) and 5-3 in the SEC. Miles' 2015 recruiting class was ranked 5th.

O's last year, we went 10-3 overall and 5-3 in the SEC, and O's 2019 class was ranked 5th.

You sure that's better?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 1:25 pm to
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Never mind you are a Miles fanboy and we know Miles kept guys when he should've replaced them


Yea, Kevin Steele is still on staff...
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 1:27 pm to
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Yea, Kevin Steele is still on staff..

And Gary Crowton. And Doug Mallory. And Bradley Dale Peveto. And John Chavis. And Brick Haley. And Larry Porter.
Posted by Goldrush25
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 1:29 pm to
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If a coach isn't a good fit with the staff we should keep him or cut our losses?

Never mind you are a Miles fanboy and we know Miles kept guys when he should've replaced them





Ensminger's still here.

Worst than that, he was on Miles's staff and is in a higher position of responsibility than he was previously. Triple whammy.
This post was edited on 5/2/19 at 1:32 pm
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 1:31 pm to
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Is it too much for you to give the man a chance to get his team together.

These guys just won't give Poor Old O a shot! The man has only been on LSU's staff since January 2015, recruiting coordinator since January 2016 and acting head coach since September 2016, how can you expect him to compete in September 2019? The guy can't compete until every single player recruited by Miles is off the roster, because they're simply not talented enough to win with. The warm up seasons of 2017 and 2018 showed us that.
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 1:32 pm to
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It was definitely a wasted season and it set the program back. It looks as if it was used as a learning experience and the team has moved on. Brady is going to be huge.

Ole Miss was totally a learning experience for O, that's why LSU needed to hire him. He's changed his ways. But then he had a slip up and did the same thing with Canada, but it was also a learning experience and he's changed his ways finally. Brady (who isn't even OC and has never been OC at a collegiate level) is totally the answer this time!
This post was edited on 5/2/19 at 1:34 pm
Posted by SportTiger1
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 1:51 pm to
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eally? he caught 22 passes for 250 yds in 25 games at LSU. He would have never been drafted had he not gone to SMU.


you mean the guy thats about to start at the slot for the redskins?
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 1:51 pm to
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Ole Miss was totally a learning experience for O, that's why LSU needed to hire him. He's changed his ways. But then he had a slip up and did the same thing with Canada, but it was also a learning experience and he's changed his ways finally. Brady (who isn't even OC and has never been OC at a collegiate level) is totally the answer this time



This ridiculous drivel got 3 upvotes.
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 1:51 pm to
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Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 1:52 pm to
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Worst than that, he was on Miles's staff and is in a higher position of responsibility than he was previously. Triple whammy.



plenty of knowledgeable football people think SE is a good play caller. Oline is pretty important for a play caller. This offense will break records and then what will you say? I guess give all the credit to Brady?
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 1:53 pm to
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This ridiculous drivel got 3 upvotes.



the idiots upvote and downvote...like sissies
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 1:54 pm to
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you mean the guy thats about to start at the slot for the redskins?


yeh the one who had over 100 catches and 1300 yds at SMU...do you think he would have had that production at LSU?
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 1:54 pm to
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plenty of knowledgeable football people think SE is a good play caller.

How many of them hired him to be their OC over the last 30 years?
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Oline is pretty important for a play caller.

Play calling is pretty important to an offensive line in terms of maximizing their strengths and mitigating their weaknesses.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 1:55 pm to
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plenty of knowledgeable football people think SE is a good play caller
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Oline is pretty important for a play caller.


Maybe the OC should do a better of job of coaching the O line...

Or call plays that don't showcase the glaring weaknesses....

Or not keep trying the same plays that don't work against shitty teams, let alone good ones

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This offense will break records and then what will you say?


When it doesn't, what will you say?
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I guess give all the credit to Brady?



Why not? everyone seems to think he is the key to any improvement we should be expecting. We have 2 years of Ensminger on tape, and let's just say it's not very impressive.
Posted by Goldrush25
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 1:56 pm to
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plenty of knowledgeable football people think SE is a good play caller. Oline is pretty important for a play caller.


Ah, so that's why he called for a play action against our own endzone vs Bama and almost got Burrow killed.

That's why he thought max protect was a good idea last year.
This post was edited on 5/2/19 at 1:57 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 1:56 pm to
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Play calling is pretty important to an offensive line in terms of maximizing their strengths and mitigating their weaknesses.



and you are saying he doesn't do this? please go on and fill us with knowledge. I am sure you and 95% of the other posters on here are more knowledgeable than SE
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 1:56 pm to
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the idiots upvote and downvote...like sissies


You realize you buddy ben is the king of downvoting constantly, right?
Posted by SportTiger1
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 1:57 pm to
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Yeh it's funny how they say O will be the death of our program and predict 6-6 seasons...since that didn't work they changed to I expect him to go to the SEC championship, playoffs, 11-1 or bust


11-1/playoffs have always been the expected goal for LSU, since about 2003. thats didnt change when O was hired, it was reassured as the GOAL.

6-6 was the anticipated results after O was hired, for some people.

Truthfully, both of those are probably unrealistic for O. He's obviously a 8-10 win kinda guy.

NO ONE changed the 'expectations'...they've always been there, except for cheeriOs

This post was edited on 5/2/19 at 2:00 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 1:57 pm to
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and you are saying he doesn't do this?


Hell no he didn't. LA Tech, SELA, BAma, how many example do you need?

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I am sure you and 95% of the other posters on here are more knowledgeable than SE


The classic go to when you can't make an argument.
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