re: Who was LSU's last "freak" (athlete)?

JaMarcus Russell..dude was sick at LSU

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physical ability - to me - refers to very raw measurables like squat, 40 time, frame, etc

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that's what i'm addressing

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some kids can just hit a damn curve ball with ease 370 ft. they could become "physical freaks" and it wouldnt help their ability to do this.. in fact it may take away if anything.

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you're talking skill levels

well i already said i don't lump arm strength in, but if you want to then he's certainly a freak

this also applies to chad jones

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well i already said i don't lump arm strength in

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Of course not. It's not in the combine reports.

Of course, Lynn Swann had no athleticism because they had no combine to measure it. That ability to leap up through defenders arms, turn a pirouette, catch the ball with one hand, and contort his body to extend his feet and just drag his toes inside the sideline -- that's not "athleticism." No, "athleticism" can only be shown by running 40 yards in straight lines, jumping up and down repeatedly, and laying on a bench pushing a weighted bar up and down over your chest.

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actually it is

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Okay, so you're not simply being irrationally arbitrary enough to only accept combine reports as "athleticism," you are being even more irrationally arbitrary so as to even exclude some of them and only accept a limited selection of combine events. Awesome.

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vision is a skill

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hand eye coordination is a skill

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which denotes athleticism, which is your PHYSICAL ABILITY

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he was a natural runner
that's not physical ability. that's mental shite and doesn't belong in this debate

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speed
strength
quickness
balance
explosion
agility

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10 yard dash, vertical, and broad jump are usually the best in terms of running explosion

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physical ability - to me - refers to very raw measurables like squat, 40 time, frame, etc

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that's what i'm addressing

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If a person has great measureables (speed and strength), but is not a good player of sports, I do not classify them as a great athlete.

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well then you're an idiot and don't understand what athleticism is

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it's not about his play on the field at all

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you can be a good player and mediocre athlete
you can be a good athlete and mediocre player
the 2 are completely different things

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So this is the collected definition of "athleticism" in SlowFlow's world.

I wonder, Slow, if you could find one instance of the word "athleticism" -- other than by you in this thread or in earlier mistakes -- where it is used with a meaning that specifically excludes reaction speed, hand eye coordination, timing, and any ability whatsoever to perform well in a sport?

It is pretty clear that you have chosen to invent a completely new word by taking the term "athleticism", casting aside it's previously existing and universal meaning, and replacing that meaning with the meaning of the phrase "results of measurements of performance in a specific set of physical tasks". And then, of course, pretended to be smarter than all the people who actually know what the term athleticism means.

Well King Joey,

You have laid it out for all to see. I suspect there is not one reader of this site that would not agree with you, except for the all-knowing and delusional SFP.

He is unable to admit that he is wrong.

Any truely smart person has the ability to admit their mistakes.

Not too surprising that the guy that thinks that a person can be a freak athlete, but not be able to excel in the sport they play...also fails to understand that you can be a smart person and still admit when you are wrong.

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I would have thought SFP would have gotten tired of his dick being kicked repeatedly

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i'm still waiting for that to happen

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lol, why u waitin for that bro! hahahha

it's quite funny that SFP is the subject expert on overall athletic ability when he has none of it himself, nor has he ever played any kind of organized sport.

beasts, freaks, whatever...

this thread is a joke.

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when he has none of it himself,

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the frick?

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nor has he ever played any kind of organized sport.

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the frick?

like i said earlier. people are just making shite up in this thread