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re: Who is the official scorer for LSU baseball games at the Box?

Posted on 3/6/13 at 2:28 pm to
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 3/6/13 at 2:28 pm to
Obviously it was a mistake or an error, but the majority of the time a "mental" mistake/error won't be scored as an error the way a physical mistake/error (dropping a popup, kicking a ground ball, etc) would be.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 3/6/13 at 2:33 pm to
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but the majority of the time a "mental" mistake/error won't be scored as an error


I am not arguing with anyone that the majority of the time it is ruled a hit. I have said that it is ruled that way most of the time. Go back and read the posts. I clearly stated that I don't think it should be. I think it should be an error. However, the other guy said I was wrong and 100% of the time a ball that doesn't touch anyone's glove is ruled a hit, which couldn't be any more wrong.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 3/6/13 at 2:39 pm to
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So this means that it SHOULD be ruled a hit. Or does that mean, in your opinion, there is nothing else better to score it as??


In some case yes. If it is clear who should have made the play, like was the case last night, then by all means call an error. But if it lands right in the middle of three people you can't really tell who should or should not have made the play.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 3/6/13 at 2:46 pm to
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If it is clear who should have made the play, like was the case last night, then by all means call an error.


Right. I agree with you on this. Some people on here don't seem to agree if it "doesn't hit the fielder's glove" which is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

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But if it lands right in the middle of three people you can't really tell who should or should not have made the play.


I agree and like we have already talked about, sometimes this is ruled a hit and sometimes it is not. I have seen the closest fielder get the error. I have seen the fielder that should have been the one to catch it given the error. I have also seen it ruled a hit, and I will even say more often than not. My opinion is still that it should be an error on someone, you shouldn't just rule it a hit because you don't feel it is fair to assign the error to a particular player.

I also believe they should have a team error.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58306 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 2:50 pm to
if you cant give it to someone it should just be a stolen base. Like the dropped 3rd strike rule.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 2:51 pm to
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if you cant give it to someone it should just be a stolen base. Like the dropped 3rd strike rule


A dropped third strike isn't a stolen base.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58306 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 2:52 pm to
last time i looked at scoring rules, if the 3rd strike is dropped and the runner reaches base it is ruled a strikeout and a stolen base. has this been changed?
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 3/6/13 at 2:53 pm to
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last time i looked at scoring rules, if the 3rd strike is dropped and the runner reaches base it is ruled a strikeout and a stolen base. has this been changed?


No it's usually a wild pitch or a passed ball.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/6/13 at 2:54 pm to
Shaq is I think
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 2:54 pm to
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and the runner reaches base it is ruled a strikeout and a stolen base. has this been changed?


That has never been the case.

A dropped third strike is an 0-1 with a strikeout for the batter and the pitcher is credited with a strikeout and a wild pitch which accounts for the runner reaching first base. No batter has ever been credited with a stolen base for reaching first base on a strike out.

ETA: Cub is also right, it could also be ruled a passed ball if it is on the catcher.
This post was edited on 3/6/13 at 2:56 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58306 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 2:56 pm to
hhmm then idk where i got the SB from.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 2:57 pm to
Neither do I.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58306 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 2:58 pm to
Well start looking for it.
Posted by TigersforEver
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2008
1930 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 3:09 pm to
Honestly, if the hitter actually hits the ball and reaches base, I think he should get a hit - regardless of whatever the fielder(s) do(es).
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 3:14 pm to
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Honestly, if the hitter actually hits the ball and reaches base, I think he should get a hit - regardless of whatever the fielder(s) do(es).


Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
22244 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 3:15 pm to
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Honestly, if the hitter actually hits the ball and reaches base, I think he should get a hit - regardless of whatever the fielder(s) do(es).


So you're saying there should be no errors?
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61860 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 3:18 pm to
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Honestly, if the hitter actually hits the ball and reaches base, I think he should get a hit - regardless of whatever the fielder(s) do(es).

Posted by LSUTygerFan
Homerun Village
Member since Jun 2008
33232 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 3:19 pm to
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Honestly, if the hitter actually hits the ball and reaches base, I think he should get a hit - regardless of whatever the fielder(s) do(es).



i say get rid of check swings. You either swing or you don't swing.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 3:20 pm to
TigerCub - you follow the Cubs pretty close? I am a huge Cubs fan. Planning a trip to Seattle with the wife this year and we will be going the week of July 4. The Cubs just so happen to be there, so we will be catching a game at Safeco.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 3:20 pm to
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You either swing or you don't swing


And if you don't, it's a freakin ball - regardless of where the pitch is located.
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