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re: Who are some MBB coaching candidates for next year?
Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:06 am to Dicken Nuggets
Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:06 am to Dicken Nuggets
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What is the problem with LSU men's basketball? Is it the money/talent or is it coaching?
All last year we heard that the issue was money and talent. It was then made known that the basketball NIL would be increased this year as kind of a prove it year for Mcmahon. And guess what? Same results.
I know the go to for the excuse makers has been lack of NIL, but am I supposed to really believe that programs like Vanderbilt, Mississippi St, Oklahoma, and Ole Miss all of a sudden pulled millions of NIL dollars for basketball out of their arse and have whipped our arse constantly for the last 4 years solely because they are "outspending us". And lets go along with this idea that LSU is lagging THAT far behind in NIL funding. If I was a booster, what has Mcmahon done or shown that would make me want to trust him with my money. I would be better served to just go light hundred dollar bills on fire. Its Mcmahon's job to CONVINCE people to give to the program and buy in. I have met mcmahon on multiple occasions. He's a nice guy, but everytime I talked with him I walked away thinking how bland he was. At one event I talked with him for about 5-10 minutes and then had a conversation with CJJ for another 10 minutes or so and it was a night and day difference in energy, enthusiam, confidence, and just selling ability.
This post was edited on 1/21/26 at 10:22 am
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:17 am to Madking
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Otzelberger is another good one who’s not well known
Otzelberger would be a huge get, the issue there is you'd pretty much be relying on him stepping away from a consistent top 10 team that is paying him good money that he has spent that last few years building essentially from scratch. He just has no good reason to leave right now. Funny enough, he took over for Steve Prohm after Prohm fricking tanked that program. Iowa St hired Prohm from Murray St who then promoted Mcmahon to replace Prohm. At some point Otzelberger's gotta get tired of fixing Murray St coaching frickups lol
This post was edited on 1/21/26 at 10:18 am
Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:56 am to Aforem7
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Off the top of my head, Pittsburgh, Wake Forest, Arizona St and possibly South Carolina and Penn State may be looking for coaches.
I would add Oklahoma to the list. But otherwise, you make a good point. When McMahon was hired, he was one of 6 new HCs hired in the SEC alone that cycle. This year, unless Kentucky decides they want to quickly eject Pope, I think its just Oklahoma, LSU and maybe South Carolina. I say "maybe" because South Carolina gave Paris a raise/extension before last season. They may be in the same situation LSU was this season. They know Paris isn't going to work out, but don't feel bullish enough to make a change just yet.
Using last year's numbers (which are the only easily available) the 10th highest paid HC nationally was making $5M per year. I don't think LSU would be willing to pay that much, particularly with football consuming so much money, but I could see something in the high $3M - low $4M range. That alone would make the job attractive because that salary would likely fall within the top 30 or so nationally.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:01 am to Alt26
The Mayor, currently at Nebraska, blows my Mind that he is till over there and not a better school
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:04 am to LSUJockStrap
McBoredom just needs a few more years to learn how to coach 
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:09 am to saturncube21
Anybody still saying Will Wade....
SEEK HELP IMMEDIATELY
SEEK HELP IMMEDIATELY
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:24 am to Primeminister337
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The Mayor, currently at Nebraska, blows my Mind that he is till over there and not a better school
His first 4 seasons at Nebraska weren't remarkable (0 winning seasons). He had a good 5th season, but then regressed last season (12th in Big 12).
This year they have it going well. But some of that success has been (1) a result of a weak non-conf. schedule (285 SOS...one of the weakest among NET top 40 teams) and (2) on a razor's edge. 1 point win over K-State. 3 point win at Illinois. 2 point win at Michigan St. 3 point win at Ohio St. A few of those results go the other way and we are having a different discussion.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:53 am to Alt26
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I would add Oklahoma to the list.
Kind of forgot about Porter Moser. I would actually put it likelier that Oklahoma gets rid of Moser before USC gets rid of Paris just because of contract structure. Moser only has one more year in his contract, Paris meanwhile has another 4 years on his with about a $10 million buyout currently
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:56 am to Aforem7
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Paris meanwhile has another 4 years on his with about a $10 million buyout currently
I didn’t know Woodward ended up at South Carolina.
Paris is better coach than McMahon though.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:59 am to Alt26
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His first 4 seasons at Nebraska weren't remarkable (0 winning seasons). He had a good 5th season, but then regressed last season (12th in Big 12).
I mean I get your point, but we're also talking about a school that before he got there had had TWO winning conference records this century and only 9 since 1980. This isn't an LSU situation where the program was on an upward trajectory when he took over
He also did very well at Iowa st his first stint there before he bounced to the NBA
This post was edited on 1/21/26 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:11 pm to saturncube21
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Who are some MBB coaching candidates for next year?
I will take literally any other Division I coach seeing as we have the worst Division I coach at the moment. Anyone is an improvement.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:19 pm to Aforem7
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I didn’t know Woodward ended up at South Carolina.
Paris is better coach than McMahon though.
If there is a saving grace to McMahon's lack of success, it's that he's never had that fluke great season he could try to leverage for a raise/extension. Otherwise, we'd be South Carolina. A program going nowhere, but with a coach that was cost prohibitive to dismiss.
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I mean I get your point, but we're also talking about a school that before he got there had had TWO winning conference records this century and only 9 since 1980. This isn't an LSU situation where the program was on an upward trajectory when he took over
Don't get me wrong, Nebraska is one of, if not the worst, places to try to win. I was just responding to your comment that you were surprised he's still there. Really, until this season, there wasn't a ton that would attract a bigger "buyer".
He definitely would be an upgrade from McMahon. But that is a pretty low bar. Given it would probably cost a decent amount to pry him from Nebraska combined with the fact he hasn't had tremendous success there, the question is would LSU be better off with taking a swing on a cheaper mid-major HC compared to the Mayor? Sure, McMahon has been a huge dud, but that doesn't mean every potential mid-major HC would be. You look at places like Florida, Alabama, Vanderbilt, even Miss. St has made the NCAAT 3 straight seasons. The right mid-major hire could produce big results.
I wouldn't hate Hoiberg. I just don't think he'd be among my top tier list.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:20 pm to saturncube21
Figured I'd put together a full list of everyone that has been mentioned (let me know if I miss anybody):
The Prodigal Son
- Will Wade
Realistic P5 Coaches
- Chris Beard
- Fred Hoiberg
- TJ Otzelberger
- Scott Drew
Mid-Major Coaches
- Josh Schertz
- Jerrod Calhoun
- Tony Skinn
- Chris Gurlefson
The SEC Retreads
- Bryce Drew
- Shaka Smart
The Prodigal Son
- Will Wade
Realistic P5 Coaches
- Chris Beard
- Fred Hoiberg
- TJ Otzelberger
- Scott Drew
Mid-Major Coaches
- Josh Schertz
- Jerrod Calhoun
- Tony Skinn
- Chris Gurlefson
The SEC Retreads
- Bryce Drew
- Shaka Smart
This post was edited on 1/22/26 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:23 pm to Alt26
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Nebraska is one of, if not the worst, places to try to win. I was just responding to your comment that you were surprised he's still there. Really, until this season, there wasn't a ton that would attract a bigger "buyer".
Gotcha. Someone else had commented that but I get what you're saying. To me he hasn't sustained the success long enough at Nebraska to get offered by a big time program, but I still think he's a great coach and would much rather us take a chance on someone who is finding a way to have success at Nebraska over the shite that we have had to watch the last 4 years (and I think you and I agree on that point)
Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:24 pm to Alt26
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If there is a saving grace to McMahon's lack of success, it's that he's never had that fluke great season he could try to leverage for a raise/extension. Otherwise, we'd be South Carolina. A program going nowhere, but with a coach that was cost prohibitive to dismiss.
Very true
Posted on 1/21/26 at 1:36 pm to Aforem7
That’s also ignoring what he did at Iowa state which was highly impressive. From a pure basketball perspective Hoiberg is unique in how he implements offense and versatile in what he can do there. He tailors his scheme to his players abilities as well as anybody in the college game.
This post was edited on 1/21/26 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 1/21/26 at 1:42 pm to Madking
There will be only 1 whether we like it or not,WW.Im not a fan of him ,he is a lot like Dale great recruiter poor floor coach.Thats who they will go after and hire.He enjoyed his time at McNeese and had a good relationship with Rousse.He WILL COME BACK!!
Posted on 1/21/26 at 1:50 pm to RGT
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he is a lot like Dale great recruiter poor floor coach
What exactly makes him a "poor floor coach" other than ignorant LSU fan groupthink?
The guy has a .700 career winning % across (now) 5 different stops. None of them exactly enjoyed massive recruiting advantages relative to their competition. You don't win that many games by simply rolling the ball out on the court.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 1:50 pm to RGT
I just don’t see that happening with him just being hired at NC State. We missed our chance to bring him back. As far as comparing him to Brown they’ve both been turned into caricatures that don’t really represent what they are as coaches. Brown was a great recruiter but he was also a very innovative coach most of his career. The reason he’s labeled as a bad coach is because with that last great recruiting class he mishandled them and underachieved. The game was passing him by, he just got old at the wrong time. With Wade he’s an excellent Xs and Os coach, his issue is he relies on the numbers too much in certain situational aspects of the game but between the lines he’s excellent.
This post was edited on 1/21/26 at 1:52 pm
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