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re: Where my McMen at?!?!?!

Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:12 am to
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:12 am to
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Also notice how he’s now tried to pivot and once again throw Wade into the mix as a deflection. He still hasn’t provided any information or even possible reasoning to support his potentially canceled season allegation.
Can you imagine LSU just tossing $2+ million dollars in net income from LSU MBB just because? Lol.

As much as LSU is a baseball school, the easiest second money maker is MBB, and it’s not even close. This idiot contends we’re just canceling the season without any repercussions. Just few weeks out, let’s cancel. Lmao.
Posted by cmacatl13
the Berry
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:17 am to
LSU Basketball has been at the forefront of the FBI investigation into bribery into College Basketball. Will Wade is now facing some very serious potential sanctions.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:18 am to
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I’ve been around the basketball program since I was 5. When I was 12 years old Coach Brown brought me on the floor in the Omni in 86 when we cut down the nets. I’d sit on the bench at every game I attended, full locker room access, rode the team bus.


Ah, I see. You are part of the Dale Brown clique that was backstabbing Will Wade behind the scenes.

It all makes sense now.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:22 am to
Of course and there’s just no basis for doing it. The team was constructed relatively early, the schedule was made at the normal time, there was no delays on workouts or practices. This guys seems to construct fantasies that vaguely parallel reality but are so outlandish they’re not even close to believable even if he was someone who has inside knowledge which he obviously isn’t. Basically at some point facts have to matchup with the story at least a little. In his case the facts always contradict his stories.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:23 am to
Another delusional, make believe story. Plz tell me you’re a troll because nobody can be this dumb.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28371 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:27 am to
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I just provided the board with a link that proves we were under fbi investigation.


No you didn't. You provided an article written by an obscure blogger that characterized LSU as being at the "forefront of the FBI investigation". Just because some random bozo on the internet writes a blog doesn't mean it is factually correct. What he was doing was parroting the sensationalized BS Pat Forde ran with for 3 years...constantly repeating the exact same story that broke in 2019. LSU denied any knowledge of FBI inquiries into the program.

What makes the article you cited even less credible is this statement

quote:

Those payments and arrangements are no longer alleged, they are now deemed true. On Wednesday, August 26th, 2020 the NCAA announced that they were sure Coach Wade did arrange or offer the “impermissible benefits” to at least 11 recruits and their families. Those arrangements included but were not limited to cash payments made directly to the recruit. The other payments that did not go to the recruit directly went to the recruit’s family or their AAU coach or as the NCAA described it “others.”


Yet, despite being "deemed true", the actual NCAA (well, IARP) investigation did not find this occurred.

Now, am I naïve enough to think Wade wasn't finding ways to pay players? Of course not. That's how college basketball recruiting worked LONG before the days of NIL.

But to consistently argue that LSU was under "FBI investigation" and were "strongly considering canceling games" that did not even exist yet because the 2022-2023 schedule had not been made in the Spring of 2022 is absurd.

If you don't like Wade and think he should have been fired, that is completely ok. I've long said LSU had reasonable grounds to fire him if they felt doing so could mitigate sanctions during the pendency of an NCAA investigation, the ultimate results of which could not be known in March of 2022. But stop trying to pass off opinion as "fact".
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:34 am to
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Just because some random bozo on the internet writes a blog doesn't mean it is factually correct.
Just wait until I start my new Wordpress account. shite gunna hit the fan. I got a lot of stuff to make up and I can count on TD.
Posted by cmacatl13
the Berry
Member since May 2014
453 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:36 am to
Not at all. I supported Wade and was really excited until he brought LSU into a total negative light. I actually think Collis is bad for the program. Daddy Dale is too old and really doesn’t know what’s going on. I hated Alleva but I think Woodward is the best AD in the land. And for the absolutely completely clueless that blame him for firing Wade, it was a unanimous board of supervisors decision and as AD Woodward’s duties entailed he was the spokesman.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:37 am to
Don’t forget last years team was picked to finish 7th or 8th in the SEC which was a possible bubble position. So not only were we going to throw away the 2million in black ink, we were potentially throwing away another 1.5 for a tourney appearance. So he’s saying we almost forfeited all that money for no reason other than creating a talking point for cmacatl. He really must be a big wig at LSU.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:40 am to
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If you don't like Wade and think he should have been fired, that is completely ok.
Exactly. Why make up shite to have that contention or point of view? It completely undermines an actual opinion.

And again, I want to reiterate that Wade literally could have hired a film crew to follow him around handing out cash to players and the FBI wouldn’t have cared less.

Posted by cmacatl13
the Berry
Member since May 2014
453 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:43 am to
LINK

How many more sources do you pansies need short of J Edgar coming from the grave to verify what is common public knowledge???
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47888 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:45 am to
It seems to a pattern with some, convince yourself of a narrative then pull pieces of unverified stories working backwards to prove the narrative instead of gathering the facts and letting them lead you. There are things we still don’t know about motives and peripheral aspects of the situation but the things he keeps bringing up have already been revealed and are not at all what he’s trying to push.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:47 am to
Again that story was proven to be false less than a week after it was produced.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37073 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:50 am to
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It seems to a pattern with some, convince yourself of a narrative then pull pieces of unverified stories working backwards to prove the narrative instead of gathering the facts and letting them lead you.
Exactly. Draw your conclusion first, then fill in the blanks to reach that conclusion. It’s logic for 5th graders.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28371 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:51 am to
Within the article you cited...


quote:

LSU spokesman Michael Bonnette told SI Thursday that the school is unaware of any recent FBI inquiries or presence in Baton Rouge. Attempts to reach Wade’s attorney, Steve Thompson, were unsuccessful. A call to an SDNY spokesman was not immediately returned Thursday.


Much of this was based upon "unnamed sources" by journalists with an agenda and spotty credibility. But perhaps most damning was the fact that despite the "smoking gun" wiretap tape of Wade he was NEVER indicted on any criminal charges. If the DOJ had such a slam dunk case isn't it curious they didn't indict the coach who was at the "forefront" of the investigation.

Again, I'm not telling you Wade didn't pay players. I think he ABSOLUTELY did (along with just about every other major conference coach in the the US). But the hyperbole to you keep passing off as "fact" is ridiculous.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47888 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:54 am to
There was an investigation of potential Clery Act violations at LSU during that time. The Clery Act has nothing to do with sports violations or anything he’s talking about, it has to deal with crime statistics within and around the campus areas. When that SI article came out it was immediately clarified and corrected.
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 10:56 am
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:54 am to
I think Wade absolutely paid players. That’s my opinion. Now I just wish he would have just handed off brief cases in parking garages like a movie or television show. That would have been right AF. Open up the brief case to show the cash, lol.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40807 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:55 am to
I'm very proud of this team. Big improvement from Last year.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47888 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:05 am to
That’s why the argument about cheating is a distraction. Too many other teams are caught doing worse all the time including nearly half the SEC within the same time frame. Wade’s firing was about something else or a combination of other issues. The Football side of it, the athletic department and of course money. I’m more inclined to believe those latter issues were the reason and not some slap on the wrist that wasn’t worth tanking the basketball program over.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47888 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:10 am to
Regardless of the past and the constant arguing over it I’m much more worried about our defenders failing to do things you learn in HS. That’s my concern not some good vs evil caricatures of coaches.
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