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re: When Les breaks the LSU all-time win record AND wins another NC...
Posted on 5/22/15 at 2:11 pm to navy
Posted on 5/22/15 at 2:11 pm to navy
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Yes, we all recall ... beat Wisky because Gordon got hurt and Wisky lost their minds ... the big win over the powerhouse that was Florida ... getting punked by Moo St, for the most part ... getting destroyed by Barn ... didn't show up vs. the Hogs... blowing it vs. the Gumps ... and the inexcusable humiliation at the hands of fricken Notre Dame. It was a bad year ... our QB play was not good.
Choctaw will NEVER respond to this... Its the truth about Miles and HE can't handle the truth about ANYTHING Mies has done wrong.........
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 2:14 pm to MetryTyger
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And in 2007, LSU won 12 games and the SEC title.
And lost 2 games (in OTs) to mighty Kentucky ... and ... the LAST game of the regular season, to mighty Arkansas.
LSU needed MUCH more help in 2007.
In 2003 ... LSU didn't have the "CFB big-time credibility" ... that incidentally, Saban helped bring to the program ... which, incidentally, CLM needed (in addition to WVU losing to a shitty Pitt team) in 2007. But, the 2003 team was bad-arse and everyone knew it.
I love the 2007 team more than anything ... but that loss to Arkansas was bad, bad, bad. Got lucky in the end ... and took care of business.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 2:15 pm to Choctaw
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but he's not....and i moved on. unfortunately....10 years later....many of you have not
Oh I have moved on... Your hatred for Saban and always trying to say he sucked at lSU and he did NOTHING to help the program make you look like a fool.............. LSU will AGAIN go 8-5 this year...... Poor QB play will result in this... And THAT is failure for a coach that makes that much money........
Posted on 5/22/15 at 2:16 pm to dukke v
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But what about 1/9/12????? That was way more disappointing than ANY Saban loss aNYWHERE.................
well...for those with perspective....we had just had our first undefeated regular season since i don't know when and another SEC championship. we have 3 recognized NCs in our history...Miles has one with 2 appearances.
yes...the game sucked. yes...i was pissed. but we were playing a great team with a great coach who basically got a "do over" so i was over it pretty quickly considering everything else. that UAB loss made me sick for a week.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 2:19 pm to dukke v
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Your hatred for Saban
i hate everything about bama...he just happens to be the coach.
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always trying to say he sucked at lSU and he did NOTHING to help the program make you look like a fool
none of this has ever come out of my mouth. feel free to go through my post history. i try not to even talk about the douchebag.
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LSU will AGAIN go 8-5 this year......
doubt it
Posted on 5/22/15 at 2:22 pm to navy
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And lost 2 games (in OTs) to mighty Kentucky ... and ... the LAST game of the regular season, to mighty Arkansas.
you left out the SECCG. but how appropriate that you attempt to shite on a NC winning year because you dislike Miles
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In 2003 ... LSU didn't have the "CFB big-time credibility"
this is the bullshite revisionist history that pisses me off. fricking LSU fans that think LSU football started in 2000
This post was edited on 5/22/15 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 5/22/15 at 2:32 pm to navy
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And lost 2 games (in OTs) to mighty Kentucky ... and ... the LAST game of the regular season, to mighty Arkansas.
this is what i find sad and pathetic. so called LSU "fans" going out of their way to tarnish a national title because they don't like the Head Coach for the mortal sin of not being the guy that coached here before him and is not as good as that guy.
You think if OU had gotten into and won the 2007 BSC CG their fans would ever say, yeah we won the NC but lost 2 games and needed help? No they would not. Ever team that has ever won the NC that wasn't undefeated (and even some of those BTW) have needed "help" to win. That's the nature of a sport without an expansive year end tourney. Saban needed help to win 3 of his 4 titles.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 2:37 pm to Choctaw
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this is the bullshite revisionist history
No, it's not. We are all well aware of LSU's long storied football traditions and history.
But ... prior to Saban, LSU was not considered a bona-fide powerhouse nor a household name across the nation.
And, to his credit, CLM has carried the torch quite well.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 2:38 pm to Choctaw
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In 2003 ... LSU didn't have the "CFB big-time credibility"
this is the bullshite revisionist history that pisses me off. fricking LSU fans that think LSU football started in 2000
I'm with you, but he is also partial correct. We did not have the cache in 2003 that we have had since. CFB has always operated like that, they favor the name brand teams. LSU was viewed nationally as a good, but "2nd tier" type program. It has happened to others. Forget the NC title for a minute, look at the player awards. Chad Lavalais was dominant that year, but got no mention for the big post season awards. Now we regularly have guys mentioned. Saban should get credit for getting the ball rolling, but Miles does deserve credit for keeping it going which is not easy, many a program fell off a cliff after losing a winning coach including several that did a lot more than Saban did at LSU.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 2:41 pm to navy
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But ... prior to Saban, LSU was not considered a bona-fide powerhouse nor a household name across the nation.
again...bullshite. did Saban help it? yes. Did he create it? frick no
you can't honestly sit there and think that nobody outside of the south knew who LSU was. thats just fricking ridiculous
Posted on 5/22/15 at 2:41 pm to H-Town Tiger
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this is what i find sad and pathetic. so called LSU "fans" going out of their way to tarnish
No ... I am not. I merely stated what happened. That doesn't tarnish anything. You left out the part where I gave due credit and praise...and said that 2007 was my favorite team. I was deployed to fricking Baghdad that year ... watched many a game live at like 3 AM via AFN (thankfully) ... that Tiger team means a lot to me.
In my opinion, all teams need a little "luck" to win a National Championship. In my opinion (and this is an opinion board, for the most part) ... 2007's team needed more luck than 2003... I merely stated the reasons that I believe this.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 2:43 pm to Choctaw
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did Saban help it? yes. Did he create it? frick no
Agree on both points. I do not get your argument.
Did you live all over the country/world in the last 20 years ... because I did.
Why is it so hard to simply say that Little Nicky vastly improved the program and pushed it to the next level that we are seeing today?
Posted on 5/22/15 at 2:50 pm to navy
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Why is it so hard to simply say that Little Nicky vastly improved the program and pushed it to the next level that we are seeing today?
Dinardo laid the foundation. Saban built up the brick walls. Miles came in & added the roof. Getting the football program where it is today was not a one man job. Credit deserves to spread out to everyone involved past & present. No single individual is deserving of all the credit here.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 3:42 pm to BigBrod81
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BigBrod81
Good post ... but, just so you know, my upvote to you is for the avatar pic.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 3:50 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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He is a Top 10 HC overall for the past 10 yrs. based off the only thing that matters to me and that's results. And those results were obtained during a time period when the SEC was a stronger conference than it was during 2000-2004.
I excluded the Les slobberers on this board and other LSU boards, an item that you conveniently excluded in the clip from my post. My point remains that aside from people with P&G glasses on he does not have the rep as a top ten coach. Quirky and successful yes, but elite no. He would be there had he won that game on 1/9/11 but being clueless and inept on the biggest of stages along with the many questionable episodes on national TV does leave an impression of competence.
He is generally considered a very good but not great HC by the huge majority of CFB fans. Somewhere in the 15-20 range.
You have your opinion but you're in a small but loud minority.
This post was edited on 5/22/15 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 5/22/15 at 5:08 pm to navy
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Y'all really think 2003 and 2007 played out the smae way
See my response to the post you responded to, idiot.
And yes both teams needed a shite ton of luck to make it into the NC game. To their credit they did not waste the opportunity. Just because one was coached by littlenicky and one by CLM doesn't change a damn thing.
You got that
Posted on 5/22/15 at 5:15 pm to matt314
The majority of CFB fans are uneducated and base their collective knowledge on sportswriters.
They would tell you Gus Malzhan is one of the Top 5 in the game.
They would tell you Gus Malzhan is one of the Top 5 in the game.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 5:32 pm to chilge1
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The majority of CFB fans are uneducated and base their collective knowledge on sportswriters. They would tell you Gus Malzhan is one of the Top 5 in the game.
Where else would they go for opinions? Choctaw is too busy posting on here to make the "Miles is Elite" national tour.
... and as far as Malzahn is concerned he's played for an NC in '13 and shite-stomped Les and LSU in '14. I think you could have picked a better example to advance your cause - like Chris Peterson.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 5:34 pm to Choctaw
He needs to win 1 with his own players first. Saban cant be topped.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 5:46 pm to matt314
Chris Petersen is the polar opposite of my example. He's a great coach that almost never gets mentioned. Malzhan's '13 season was the luckiest shite I've ever seen. Between "The Prayer" and the "Kick Six," Auburn was extremely fortunate to get their shite kicked in by FSU.
Then went 8-5 last year. That just screams Top 5.
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