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Posted on 12/30/17 at 9:38 pm to Topwater Trout
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years were Miles teams not talented enough to go 11-1?
I think that’s the point. We’re supposed to do better than Miles did.
Posted on 12/30/17 at 9:45 pm to stho381
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It is possible to say he did a bad job early on and a good job in the latter part of the season. It doesn't mean that you are an O-hater/lover. It just means you are looking and stating the facts.
Go look at the schedule this season and the respective coaches that were booted. Also, go look at the teams that he had to “ hold it on the tracks” last season.
Here are the facts, outside of Gus Bus shitting himself, LSU hasn’t beaten a team with a winning SEC record and only Louisiville had a somewhat formidable defense.
The Louisville win with Jackson at QB was an Arranda work of art. The offense scrapped up enough points to win. As a reminder, the Louisville DC Grantham, who went to MSU this season, didn’t forget and hammered this team.
You don’t forget about things like that when you follow a team like some of us do.
Like you said, he will get next year.
If he goes 6-6 or worse, he needs to go. No sense in wasting anymore time on this experiment.
If he hires a good OC or give Canada the OC, then I would give him some sort of a break if they go 8-4 or better because of the schedule.
Assuming a rabbit doesn’t kill all starting QBs we face 8-4 would be a good step in the right direction.
It’s not about the record is much as it is against who you play and how good they are.
Go see the Strength of schedule of 2015 and compare it to the last 2 seasons. Wisconsin and Bama bumped up last year.
Miles went 9-3 with a chance to have 10 wins had McNeese St isn’t cancelled and we wanted him fired - including me when their SoS was number 2 to 6 depending on the service after the season.
That was a tough schedule.
This year, not so much.
Posted on 12/30/17 at 10:01 pm to tigertex1992
Literally nobody thinks this.....shat-uhp
Posted on 12/30/17 at 11:20 pm to stho381
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I didn't realize O was the reason for the 112 yds of penalties or the 3/13 on 3rd downs against State.
I also didn't realize he was the reason for the 4 turnovers or 0/9 on 3rd down against Troy.
He’s the head coach. He gets paid to do that thing that could prevent these things.
Posted on 12/30/17 at 11:26 pm to tigertex1992
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It’s sad. It really is.
the sad thing is watching these O fanatics tout a season that they used to blast the last regime for.
ive seen many Miles haters say this 3 loss season is ,"a pretty good record".
Posted on 12/30/17 at 11:26 pm to tigertex1992
No one said wanting to win championships was a bad thing. What has killed LSU and the rest of this conference is demanding championships or firing your coach for not doing it. Unfortunately, we are dealing with arguably the greatest coach in college football history in our division. Also unfortunately, he made his name at LSU first and left. This is why our fan base is so psychotic. Prior to this year, there was only one other coach in this conference with an SEC title, Gus Malzahn, and their fans wanted to fire him after they lost to us. Our conference sucks because programs spend way more money than they ever had and expect that money to produce championships. Well, when everyone else is spending the same money, it's all a wash. All the big boys in this conference have the same resources and plenty of prestige to get good talent every year. But they all think there's no excuse not to win championships. As a result, every program but one is unstable with massive turnover every other year. It's become ridiculous.
This post was edited on 12/30/17 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 12/30/17 at 11:27 pm to ROPO
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But expecting this team to win a championship was not realistic.
and before you say it....
no....coaches dont publicly say they are going to make the playoffs all the time
This post was edited on 12/30/17 at 11:45 pm
Posted on 12/30/17 at 11:30 pm to Tiger1988
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Go look at the schedule this season and the respective coaches that were booted. Also, go look at the teams that he had to “ hold it on the tracks” last season.
5 of our 6 sec wins are against teams with at least 6 losses.
Posted on 12/30/17 at 11:32 pm to stho381
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What I don't understand is why everyone keeps saying O is a bad coach. Everyone agrees that Miles was a good coach that let the game pass him by and O has gotten the same results. The guy is 15-5 as a head coach after having the keep the train on the tracks last year and then dealing with the early season struggles this year.
Under his coaching, the team flipped the script and ended 9-3 after everyone thought we would be lucky to make a bowl game after the Troy game.
I am not going to make excuses for the Troy or Miss St. games because I believe that LSU should never lose to Troy and should never get blown out by any team, much less State, but to sit here and say the guy didn't get it turned around is just blatantly not giving the guy credit for the good job he did in doing that.
It is possible to say he did a bad job early on and a good job in the latter part of the season. It doesn't mean that you are an O-hater/lover. It just means you are looking and stating the facts.
The reality is we live in a society right now of absolutes. You are either pro or anti. There is no in between. It's like that in politics and it's been like that since the NCG in 2012 with LSU football. You either have to hate and bash everything or you are a "___"-apologist and get smashed on here.
Grow up people. Coach O will be the coach next year. He will get another year after that. I would rather support him and the team and hope they get to the top of the mountain than to crap all over everything for the next couple years. If the program starts sliding back, yes, look to replace, but right now it seems many of you guys are trying to find reasons to bitch about stuff for sake of just bitching because you have nothing better to do.
Posted on 12/30/17 at 11:35 pm to Topwater Trout
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What years were Miles teams not talented enough to go 11-1?
the greatest cfb coach ever (saban)with by far the most talent goes loses a game every year and you expect a lesser coach to just have 1 loss al the time?
Posted on 12/30/17 at 11:42 pm to stho381
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'm not saying O is a great coach, but after one year at 9-3 you can't really make a judgement
he has been a coach just for 1 year.
his entire head coaching career is built upon bad losses.
the highlight of his head coaching career is beating a 3 loss auburn team at home(auburn has won in TS 3 times in 75 years).
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Saban and Miles did decent their first years, not great and both of them did well
Saban came in after the 98&99 season where we had 3 sec wins total in those 2 years.
after 2 hurricanes miles went the entire regular season with 1 loss(without a bye week) and won the west
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Give O the chance and let's see what he can do with fan support,
we are but in less than a year he has......
had the worst loss in the 100+ year lsu vs msu history
had the 1st loss to a mid major in 16 years.
appears to have got into it with his handpicked OC
is 1-4 against teams that have finished /are currently ranked
was 1 58 yard wildcat run from scoring 3 points in 2 years against bama
stop acting like the criticism is unwarranted
Posted on 12/30/17 at 11:43 pm to tigertex1992
We're champions if we believe we are.
Posted on 12/30/17 at 11:47 pm to AA77
We all saw where being life champions got Tennessee.
Posted on 12/30/17 at 11:49 pm to lsufball19
Saban isn't even the best coach in Alabama history.
He's certainly good but we had a guy once that did more.
He's certainly good but we had a guy once that did more.
Posted on 12/30/17 at 11:55 pm to TouchdownTony
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Saban isn't even the best coach in Alabama history.
He's certainly good but we had a guy once that did more.
I think an argument can be made that Saban winning like he has today is more impressive than what Bear did in that era, which is why is said "arguably"
Posted on 12/31/17 at 12:20 am to Rickdaddy4188
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(auburn has won in TS 3 times in 75 years).
Yeh we are 14-3 against Auburn in that span...you know you were hoping people would think we played every year...once again shitting on us beating a top 10 team. Why don’t you go shite on some of CLM top 10 wins
This post was edited on 12/31/17 at 12:21 am
Posted on 12/31/17 at 12:33 am to stho381
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I didn't realize O was the reason for the 112 yds of penalties or the 3/13 on 3rd downs against State.
I also didn't realize he was the reason for the 4 turnovers or 0/9 on 3rd down against Troy.
He's the head coach so, yeah, he is the reason for all of that. Penalties, turnovers, 3rd down....all head coach stuff.
Posted on 12/31/17 at 12:45 am to 00 Tech Grad
quote:Yeah, I thought that was the driving point that got Miles pushed out. People were losing their fricking minds that we "only" went to 2 national title games in his 11 years, and what's worse, he had the fricking nerve to lose one of them.
years were Miles teams not talented enough to go 11-1?
I think that’s the point. We’re supposed to do better than Miles did.
Now, it seems like a lot of the fans that are still shitting on Miles are also saying what a good job O has done, at 9-3 and with a loss in a fricking homecoming game.
Posted on 12/31/17 at 1:07 am to Topwater Trout
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Yeh we are 14-3 against Auburn in that span.
cool
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you know you were hoping people would think we played every year
i wasnt hoping shite. i posted an objective fact.
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nce again shitting on us beating a top 10 tea
its only bashing if youre biased in favor of O. i didnt shite on the win. i said its the highlight of his career.
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Why don’t you go shite on some of CLM top 10 wins
this right here proves your bias.
beating a 3 loss team ISN'T the highlight of Miles' career.
get a grip on reality.
This post was edited on 12/31/17 at 1:15 am
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