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re: When did LSU fans become so invested in MBB??

Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:38 pm to
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:38 pm to
By ignorant people like you only
Posted by MasterofTigerBait
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:40 pm to
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A recording that had zero to do with the violations.



Amazing these idiots just parrot bits from Dick Vitale screeching on espn years ago.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:41 pm to
Chicken should put a permanent thread at the top of the board that acts as a media guide which has all the historical information in it so that we don’t have so many people spouting off incorrect “facts” all of the time.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:44 pm to
Well they don’t even bother to ask simple questions about anything. For example in this case, it’s illegal for a lawyer to leak evidence provided by the prosecution in discovery regarding a criminal case. Now if you believe what that poster believes that’s what happened here but it doesn't even cross his mind because in his mind, his bias has been confirmed.
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 9:46 pm
Posted by MasterofTigerBait
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:51 pm to
Will Wade was back coaching D1 basketball after 1 year. The IARP found a pile of beans.

Woodward is nothing but a PR spin machine. He didnt want to have to say that he decided to fire WW. Instead, he spun up a narrative that he had no other choice.

I'm so tired of the LSU AD lying. The MM NIL leaks were such transparent lies. NIL isnt the reason Scott brought him back nor is it the reason MM is a failure as LSU HC.
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 9:51 pm
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 10:02 pm to
He’s a politician period
Posted by MasterofTigerBait
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 10:03 pm to
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He’s a politician period



Yup, If i wasnt sure before, I am now. Any time aggy wants to steal him back, I'm fine with it.
Posted by Smokin Joe Dumas
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 10:06 pm to
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You still seem confused on the fact that while LSU basketball may provide a profit to the university, it’s not a draw for fans because the product is awful, as usual.


That is the problem with your thinking. There are shades of success. For there to be people filling the seats, there doesn’t have to be national championships or even multiple final fours. Occasional deep runs and consistently making the tournament is all fans ask for.

In football, the national champion will come from one of two conferences. Not so in basketball. Upsets happen all the time, hence the term “Cinderella story.” Even with the expanded playoffs, there are only 10 teams I can think of who might be really in contention year-in, year-out.

The number of players on a team effect that also. You can build a great team with one star and the rest support players with the right coach. I can name a one off the top of my head (Syracuse with Carmelo Anthony). I’m sure I can find more.

In football and baseball, that is not the case.

By the way, I know you didn’t say anything about what I said in the majority of the post, but it’s mainly to address why there are different standards for a successful program to the basketball fans. Quite frankly, it’s like comparing apples and oranges (or round balls with oblong balls)
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 10:11 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 10:07 pm to
Like you said it’s the constant lies and propaganda that’s infuriating. You’re gonna sit here and lie about NIL when you just dropped 20million on some stupid LED lights nobody wanted or cares about? That’s just insulting.
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 10:14 pm
Posted by Smokin Joe Dumas
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 10:27 pm to
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Also known as SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS.


So only blue bloods are successful programs by your standards. And everyone else is mediocre and should not care about their programs? At this point, you have jumped the shark
Posted by Smokin Joe Dumas
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 10:31 pm to
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Any fight about baseball school vs basketball school is stupid. A school can have BOTH a great basketball program and baseball program…if


Here, here!! Someone else notices that this argument is being used too often. I hate false choice arguments
Thank you.
Posted by public_enemy
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 5:18 am to
And yet, Woodward still fired him. I wonder why that was? Clearly not because he wasn’t successful, there has to be another reason…

I wonder what that reason was?
Posted by public_enemy
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 5:20 am to
Shades of success, you’re sounding like gen z trying to give everyone a trophy.

You’re either successful with hardware to show for it or not.

And LSU basketball is not

Posted by Smokin Joe Dumas
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:18 am to
Got it. So the program is worthless. Shut it down people! You obviously read nothing else or your reading comprehension is poor and nuance goes over your head.

Could be you’re one of those who get mad when they don’t win and then take their ball and go home. That sounds more like Gen Z or Millennial to me. You can quit if you want to, but that’s not what a real man does. At least, that’s what I taught my kids.

Sure. Every program is defined by its trophies (see the Aggies’s lack thereof). That doesn’t mean that the program can’t or won’t. Arkansas never had a basketball title - until it did. Florida never had a Basketball title - until it did.

Programs exist to strive for the mountain top, and stay there. Rince and repeat. Unfortunately, there’s one king of the mountain and, in basketball, there are way more D1 teams than any other sport to go through to get to that mountain top
Posted by IndianMoundFireworks
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:26 am to
I’m confused why 100 fans per day need to start a Will Wade thread.
Posted by public_enemy
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:26 am to
I love how dramatic you get. Maybe it’s time to get off your rag and actually comprehend what’s being debated.

We aren’t arguing whether the basketball team should be supported or not. We’re debating whether it’s successful or not. And what that does in terms of pecking order of the big three in modern history.

LSU basketball is not a successful program. That doesn’t mean fans shouldn’t support it. I’m saying expectations need to be deeply lowered because more than likely, no matter who is hired, we won’t turn into a program that’s nationally respected.

Maybe it’s time to step away from the keyboard if that gets you so riled up
Posted by Smokin Joe Dumas
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Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:55 am to
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I’m saying expectations need to be deeply lowered because more than likely, no matter who is hired, we won’t turn into a program that’s nationally respected.


Loser’s mentality and not historically accurate. See my comments on Florida and Arkansas. You can add UNLV and others to that list. If your have low expectations you can never be disappointed. Is that what you teach your children? I definitely hope you are not a coach or teacher.
Posted by public_enemy
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:01 am to
I personally believe in realism.that is what I teach my kids. In reality, LSU will be close to last place for the next few seasons at minimum. No matter how hard fans wish or pray or whatever you do to cope.

If you want to believe we’ll be competing for championships soon, that’s your prerogative.

The history has already been pointed out for you, but you choose to believe in unicorns and the magic of wishing shows extreme delusion.

Again, personal insults are cute, but you’re missing the entire point of the debate.

Here, I’ll say it for you again.

Historically LSU Men’s basketball has not been a successful program compared to other SEC and D1 schools. Expecting that to change anytime soon based on history, as well as the past few years, portrays your delusion

Maybe if you wish for a million dollars to appear in your bank account, it’ll magically happen!
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 7:04 am
Posted by Smokin Joe Dumas
Armchair QB
Member since Apr 2022
2170 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:24 am to
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personal insults are cute


Quote: Maybe it’s time to get off your rag.

Pot meet kettle.

History does not consist of one team, which is why I mentioned Florida, Arkansas, UNLV, et.al., nor does it necessitate that things continue the way they are. History can teach you how to do things differently.

Now, if it is taken seriously, which is what those other programs did, there is no reason why LSU would not replicate their success. Doesn’t mean they would, but it definitely won’t happen if they don’t try. I’m a realist; but, I’m not a defeatist.

(And I don’t have to look in my bank account. I’m retired with way more than 1 million. It’s why I can just hang out here and give some of that to NIL)
Posted by The Blue Stuff
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:29 am to
U obviously weren't alive in the 80's.
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