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re: When did Louisiana State paint their field like this?

Posted on 5/26/09 at 10:37 am to
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
19102 posts
Posted on 5/26/09 at 10:37 am to
Mike Archer was a program devastator. Good x/o coach on defense, but that was is. Could not manage a program; could not recruit his way out of a paper bag.

Curley Hallman could recruit, and do it very well. That's about it.

Gerry DiNardo could recruit almost as well, and also knew how to manage the program as a head coach. He screwed up the 3rd important ingredient: hiring and retaining a great coaching staff.

DiNardo > Hallman > Archer in my book.
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
7664 posts
Posted on 5/26/09 at 10:58 am to
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the state of LA emblem with the star for Baton Rouge inside of it


Pisces, I thought that was only in 87 because of the filming of Everybody's All-American. The only game during that era that I have recorded is the 85 Bama game and we had the eye at the time. Although the weird part is, the eye is centered on the 45 instead of the 50.
Posted by tigabait01
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
4795 posts
Posted on 5/26/09 at 11:25 am to
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Posted by TigerBandAlumnus82
Pensacola,FL
Member since Jul 2007
3104 posts
Posted on 5/26/09 at 3:39 pm to
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then saban brought back the eye and the endzones we have now


Saban brought the EYE back, but the endzones we have now with the little high schoolish size LSU Geaux Font logos, have only been seen since Les Miles took over. That needs to change starting this season.

IMO, the entire field looks like shite, from the grass to the endzones to the white border surounding the field. They can't even paint the EYE correctly.
Posted by Nearl
Town
Member since Feb 2009
804 posts
Posted on 5/26/09 at 3:42 pm to
I care more about the team standing on the field. Unless the sod becomes a problem, like Heinz field.
Posted by geauxtigersbeb
Wallingford, CT
Member since Nov 2007
264 posts
Posted on 5/26/09 at 3:55 pm to
Pisces, I thought that was only in 87 because of the filming of Everybody's All-American. The only game during that era that I have recorded is the 85 Bama game and we had the eye at the time. Although the weird part is, the eye is centered on the 45 instead of the 50.


+1
Posted by H I McDonough
Trailer
Member since Jan 2007
76 posts
Posted on 5/26/09 at 4:25 pm to
The sky is blue, the sun sets in the west and Dinardo couldn't carry Hallman's clip board. Hallman not being a coach any longer makes all the difference...? Believe what you want.

When you have the time, do a little research on quality of players each coach had when taking over, strength of schedules and try to remember what a disorganized disaster Dinardo's team was his last couple of years.
Posted by TigerArkitek
Bestbank
Member since Oct 2005
1336 posts
Posted on 5/26/09 at 4:50 pm to
Actually I think it was Hallman that instituted the Eye. The only good thing he did for the program.
Posted by ffishstik
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
4144 posts
Posted on 5/26/09 at 5:09 pm to
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When did Louisiana State paint their field like this?


Back about the time that this picture was taken.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 5/26/09 at 5:48 pm to
H I you are hilarious. I could throw facts and figures at you all day long, but why bother?

Both coaches are subpar for LSU standards. The fact that you think Hallman couldn't "carry Hallman's clipboard" makes you:

a) Curly himself
b) a buffoonish relative

The only types of coaches who couldn't carry Curley's clipboard are cops who are coaching YMCA when they get off their shifts.

One guy is an analyst at ESPN and well respected for his knowledge. The other is teaching 6 year olds how to jump rope. You do that math.

I am well aware that Hallman inherited a bunch of Archer's miscues. Well aware. I also know that we gave Curley 4 years and he couldn't win more than five games in a season. This "level of competition" crap is not flying. It is plain to see that DiNardo was a better choice. Ask Shedrick Wilson and Eddie Kennison.
Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
3005 posts
Posted on 5/26/09 at 6:01 pm to
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You better be careful, you're liable to cause an uprising by the idiots on here. Everything you just said is absolute heresy, all because DiNardo's successor coaches at Alabama now, and they use historical revisionism trying to reduce how shitty the program DiNardo left for Saban was is the one, single straw they can grasp at to denigrate what Saban accomplished at LSU.


Uh well I agree the end of Dinardo was disorganized and a poor coaching staff to go with it he could recruit and despite the Sabanistas contention the cupboard was bare this was a team who after DiNardo's firing went out and manhandled 17th ranked Arkansas and the following players were left for Saban.Mind you they needed direction but any top notch coach could have won with:

Fred Booker, Ryan Clark, Rohan Davey, Trev Faulk, Bradie James, Josh Booty,LaBrandon Toefield,Josh Reed,Domanick Davis, Norman Lejeune,John Corbello,Tommy Banks,Eric Edwards,Ryan Oneal, Kendrick Allen,Jeremy Lawrence,Jarvis Green, Rodney Reed,Brandon Winey,Kyle Kipps, Robert Royal,Muskingum Barnes, Howard Green.

All of these were at least redshirt freshmen in Saban's first year
Posted by Carlos
Member since Nov 2006
2130 posts
Posted on 5/26/09 at 9:19 pm to
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One guy is an analyst at ESPN and well respected for his knowledge.


I hope you aren't talking about DiNardo

First of all, he's not with ESPN anymore. Second of all, if you're a former coach working for ESPN analysing any sport, it means you were a failure at coaching (with the exception of Holtz).

Gerry DiNardo works for the Big Ten network, and this is due to the fact that he never surpassed 4 wins per year in his last 5 seasons as a head coach, and would not be able to get another relevant coaching job.
This post was edited on 5/26/09 at 9:21 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60027 posts
Posted on 5/26/09 at 9:21 pm to
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Hallman was ten times the coach Dinardo was.



quote:

Dinardo had some decent talent when he arrived


not near the talent he left Saban with

Posted by Carlos
Member since Nov 2006
2130 posts
Posted on 5/26/09 at 9:26 pm to
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not near the talent he left Saban with


Major stretch. DiNardo maintained the talent at mid-SEC level, but he did not drastically improve it. Saban didn't inherit a single first round draft pick from DiNardo. Saban winning an SEC and Sugar Bowl title with those players was nothing short of exceptional.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 5/26/09 at 9:39 pm to
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DiNardo maintained the talent at mid-SEC level, but he did not drastically improve it.



Nice. And what did Hallman do with it?
Posted by el gato
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
2452 posts
Posted on 5/26/09 at 9:40 pm to
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if you're a former coach working for ESPN analysing any sport, it means you were a failure at coaching (with the exception of Holtz).


Dude... fail.

I'm sure if you actually went to the ESPN website you could pull up a list of their analysts, but, just off the top of my head, I would say that Tony Dungy, Mike Ditka and Bob Knight disagree with your statement. If I think of others I may come back and post more... or not.
Posted by Carlos
Member since Nov 2006
2130 posts
Posted on 5/26/09 at 9:44 pm to
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I'm sure if you actually went to the ESPN website you could pull up a list of their analysts, but, just off the top of my head, I would say that Tony Dungy, Mike Ditka and Bob Knight disagree with your statement. If I think of others I may come back and post more... or not.


Those are recent hires. Most of their analysts who are former coaches (Vitale, Corso, Lavin, Donnan, DiNardo) were failures.

Anyway, we're talking about DiNardo, and the reason he's an analyst is because his head coaching record is so miserable that he can't get another job.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
27937 posts
Posted on 5/26/09 at 9:45 pm to


the best...
Posted by Carlos
Member since Nov 2006
2130 posts
Posted on 5/26/09 at 9:45 pm to
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Nice. And what did Hallman do with it?


I don't care about Hallman. I am addressing those who exaggerate our place in the SEC talent pecking order when Saban arrived.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 5/26/09 at 9:45 pm to
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Second of all, if you're a former coach working for ESPN analysing any sport


So the following are failures:

Bob Knight
Digger Phelps
Tommy Tuberville
Jon Gruden
Barry Melrose
Phil Fulmer


Hmmm...that sounds about right, Carlos.
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