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re: When did Eds downward spiral start?

Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:09 am to
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
11677 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:09 am to
The divorce
Posted by cut the mullet
Member since Oct 2021
87 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:10 am to
I think the personal issues didn't help, but mostly, he's a total fraud, he got lucky with Burrow and Brady. He made the reckless decision to hire Bo Pelini without an interview, then claimed the defense looked better than the season prior.

He has no idea what he's doing and he was exposed.

On top of that, there were the off the field issues--most experienced winning coaches know how to handle success, and are aware that sustaining a winning program is a whole other animal.

He's a total reckless fraud.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7763 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:10 am to
When he lost the two smartest people associated with the program: Aranda and Brady and replaced them with two dinosaurs.

Amazing that in just weeks, he forgot everything that got him to the top and reverted right back to hiring good ole boys well past their prime.

No one and I mean NO ONE was looking at Pelini and Linehan at elite programs...Yet, Ed thought they were the right hires.

Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
7816 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:10 am to
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No. He hired Matt Canada sight unseen with apparently NO clue on what kind of offense Matt ran. Then, he couldn't get along with him and fired him.

The same Matt Canada who is OC for the Steelers. The Steeler's offense is 15th in the league, in spite of an offensive line that ranks second to last in the league. So apparently, the dude knows how to get some offensive production in spite of a poor O-line. Not like he couldn't coach or something. Maybe he was/is an asshat, but if I'm a CEO coach, then I can smooth a lot of that over as long as the dude produces. Apparently, O couldn't.

You can shite on Coach O all you want, it’s warranted. But Matt Canada sucks too. No one in Pittsburgh is happy with him and he will be gone after this year
Posted by rob62
Member since Sep 2016
5165 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:10 am to
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divorce and split tail chasing life


100% agree. He has lost all focus and it ain’t coming back. Bye O. ASAP.
Posted by bdavids09
Member since Jun 2017
1358 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:11 am to
But what happened with that divorce. In 2019 espn ran a special about how he was a family man and how he stood by her side during her health issues where she almost died. Now he divorced her and is chasing after women. It just makes no sense. in 2019 after every game she went to hug him after every game. Was that all fake?
Posted by Rhio
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2013
1423 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:12 am to
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9/16/2017

LSU 7
Mississippi State 37


Oh right, that actually happened....

Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65328 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:13 am to
Rolling from a championship into huge turnover and Covid and social justice stuff. Where normally you have a spring soon after a championship to develop chemistry and leaders, you got nothing. Summer rolled around and you had the campus march and all that. The Pelini and Linehan hires were godawful.

It’s been a series of missteps and errors since the championship, and some flat out bad luck.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37122 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:15 am to
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But what happened with that divorce. In 2019 espn ran a special about how he was a family man and how he stood by her side during her health issues where she almost died. Now he divorced her and is chasing after women. It just makes no sense. in 2019 after every game she went to hug him after every game. Was that all fake?



Most of what we see people say on Facebook or to reporters on ESPN is not true. It's some mixture of what people wish were true and what they think other people expect of them.

This is true for regular people and amplified for people with more money or attention
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
46096 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:15 am to
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he missed on matt canada and admitted his mistake and turned it around so why cant he admit he missed on peetz and turn this around?


LOL

Stop, man. Just stop.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60772 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:16 am to
he was headed this direction from the get go. If you go back to 2017 and the spring of 2018 it was trending bad, the projections for that season was 6-6, 7-5. He staved it off by getting Burrow, he was lucky a guy like Burrow was available but he was and O got him so he gets the credit for that and hiring Brady, but you can't build on that and now its back to where we were headed without those guys.

Be thankful he got us the greatest season we will ever see
Posted by BEATIGER
35 Thousand Feet
Member since Jul 2009
703 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:19 am to
Not saying Canada is the greatest, but he's dealing with a creaky QB at the end of his career and a very poor O-line. But MC didn't form that situation. He's driving an old beater that he got tossed the keys to.

O's dealing with the players he recruited and the staff he hired - a lot of it haphazardly. A bit of a different situation.
Posted by lucaslsu
LSU!
Member since Oct 2007
8608 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:19 am to
Divorce
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288469 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:20 am to
In the offseason after 2019, lost these (20) contributors:

Joe Burrow
Kristian Fulton
Justin Jefferson
Jacob Phillips
Grant Delpit
Patrick Queen
Stephen Sullivan
Racey McMath
K’Lavon
Derrick Dillon
CEH
Michael Divinity
Damien Lewis
Adrian Magee
Badara Traore
Sadiq Charles
Lloyd Cushenberry
Thad Moss
Rashard Lawrence
Fehoko

If that wasn’t chaotic enough, the instability really went into motion when these next two things happened:

January 15, 2020; Carolina Panthers hire Joe Brady

January 16, 2020; Baylor University hires Dave Aranda



Since that point, LSU has had these players either opt out, or leave the program:

Ja’Marr Chase
Tyler Shelvin
Kary Vincent
Arik Gilbert
Marcel Brooks
Terrace Marshall
Dare Rosenthal
Apu Ika
Maurice Hampton

Among others
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60772 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:20 am to
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PM completely lost focus and fire after his.


What BS, he was a Top 8 seed 6 consecutive years a starting in 2012, that's 3 years after his title, he only "stagnated" post 2017 and even then still made 2 Supers, including hosting one
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
6347 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:21 am to
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Les started to after his title
Wtf you talking about? Les stayed competitive for years after the title and brought them to another title game which granted they lost. But for the most part they won at a great rate until his final 2 or 3 years.
Posted by Shuga4689
Member since Nov 2020
428 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:22 am to
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60772 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:23 am to
quote:

Since that point, LSU has had these players either opt out, or leave the program:

Ja’Marr Chase
Tyler Shelvin
Kary Vincent
Arik Gilbert
Marcel Brooks
Terrace Marshall
Dare Rosenthal
Apu Ika
Maurice Hampton


Chase and Marshall were going pro after 2020 regardless, so if you want to use that as a factor for the terrible season last year fine but not this year
Posted by tigerfan84
Member since Dec 2003
25962 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:23 am to
The Troy loss. Burrow fell in his lap and bought him a new contract and a couple of extra seasons. 2018 would've been a bad season had he not landed Burrow.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
79232 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:23 am to
There is no spiral. He is who we thought he was.

Jeaux Burreaux was good enough to overcome the black hole of suckage.
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