re: What's up with the Hate for Alleva on this Board?

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its a program with few donors and that's who they wanted. If people don't like it perhaps they should support the program more so we don't have to shop in the bargain bin for guys like Johnny.

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This is almost inexplicably stupid.

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if it weren't for political bull shite it would have been a very successful coup. That blood is on the hands of Alexander.

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Leaks from within Joe's department got this story out two weeks early, and allowed the politicians to insert themselves. Joe botched it.

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Both were viewed as good if not great hires at the time.

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I get that, but they were both failures. Three chances and three bad hires. Ever hear the phrase the trend is your friend?

I don't know why you think the permanent divisional opponents and Thanksgiving day failures are funny. Joe was very public that they were not good for LSU, and he failed to get anything done.

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No Sankey did. What in the hell did you want Joe to do? Make Florida stop acting like a bunch of spoiled children?

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Look Joe, you should have been in front of the media on Tuesday with a simple statement about how LSU and Louisiana understands hurricanes, and presenting alternatives to ensure the game was played on or near the scheduled date. You just suck at timing. You go public when you shouldnt, and dont when you should. You show no control over your athletic department or your boosters. Get better at your job.

The biggest problem with Alleva is his misses concerning hiring head coaches.

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This is almost inexplicably stupid.

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not really. If one of the program's biggest ambassadors and donors, Shaq, is going to bat for Johnny Jones, your hands are kind of tied.

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Leaks from within Joe's department got this story out two weeks early,

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The leaks were from Les' people. There's a reason Dingman got sent packing the same day Les did.

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Joe was very public that they were not good for LSU, and he failed to get anything done.

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What exactly can he do? Thanksgiving is A&M's call as its their home day. Joe said there would never be a home game in Tiger Stadium on Thanksgiving and there is not. The permanent east opponent does not have enough support from the other schools. Again...what can he do? We're one of the few teams that gets screwed in that deal, the others could give a shite or benefit from it.

He's been perceived as being weak when it comes to representing LSU's rights with regards to any League issue. As in he would have never done what Foley did, and right or wrong for a lot of reasons, Foley was pushing Fla.'s best interests & Foley/Fla. won. He's also perceived by some as being responsible for the prostitution of Tiger Stadium, as all it is now is money machine & many of its old, cherished traditions have been sacrificed for the cause of making more & more money off it. Too, if it's been said once here, it's been said a 1000 times: he needs to grow a set of balls.

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Announced PAtrick Murphy as softball coach before the deal was done (though he did seem to backdoor into a great hire in Torina).

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BlackAdam

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Pat Murphy was here on campus for 3 days and then got "Homesick" and went back to Bama. That's not Joe's fault...

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He's also perceived by some as being responsible for the prostitution of Tiger Stadium, as all it is now is money machine & many of its old, cherished traditions have been sacrificed for the cause of making more & more money off it

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I do agree there are way too many Ads in the stadium, but what old cherished traditions would you want back?

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always assumed it was a calculated move from the AD?

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having it leak did not benefit the AD whatsoever.

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having it leak did not benefit the AD whatsoever.

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Why would Miles leak a story to Scott that he was coaching for his job? Why would Alleva negotiate with Sexton without being on the same page with his boss before beginning the negotiations? Why would Alleva alter the buyout provision on Chavis' contract after he signed it?

He did mess up last year's attempt to fire Miles, so I understand the hate with that; but now he's standing up for the BR comunity over this Florida mess, and I really like that!

As for your list:
At the time the Jones hire looked good. Memphis was pretty good while he was there, He was sucessful at West Texas, plus he was the star returning from the golden years, the media loves to talk about that.
I'll give you botching the miles mess.
Caldwell was a good coach and now she's a good coach in the Pro's, we missed out. Johnson looked good on paper, he took Stanford, where it's hard to recruit, to the big dance.
I don't live in BR, so I don't know about Murphy.
Playing on Thanksgiving? Some players may not like it, but it's great exposure, kind of like playing on New Year's Day, but with less competition!
There isn't a AD in the league that can get rid of permenent cross divisional games.
I can't remember a year where I haven't seen some home night games on tv. There was a time when ESPN insisted on day games in Tiger Stadium, but they seem to have changed their tune. CBS has a contract with the league office, I don't think Alleva can do much about that.
Played by Foley? He's digging in his heels against Foley which is the reason he's getting heat from the national media like PTI. It was Stankey that got played.
I'm not sure about an apology, but wasn't it the the Duke Lacrosse team that did the screwing?

After the news breaks, let's see what happens to the noise.