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What's the true significance of a position coach??

Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:23 am
Posted by BlackAngus
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Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:23 am
For those of us that aren't aware, what is the benefit of having a good DL coach outside of recruiting??

At the college level, is there actually that much technique you can teach a player, that another coach hasn't taught him?

Does a DB coach determine if the DB's get to play press or off the WR? Does a DL coach get to implement his own stunts? What's the advantage?
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:26 am to
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For those of us that aren't aware, what is the benefit of having a good DL coach outside of recruiting??


You serious? To provide detailed coaching on technique to specific position groups.
Posted by AkronTiger
Rubber City
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:27 am to
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At the college level, is there actually that much technique you can teach a player, that another coach hasn't taught him?


Tons. You have to realize many corners and wide receivers, particularly in Louisiana, are converted from Quarterback where schools play their best athlete. Alot of lineman come in to college with size/length but are underdeveloped with poor technique. In addition to that, position coaches do the majority of the leg work in recruiting. For player recruitment and development, elite positional coaches are essential to championship programs.

Position coaches make an immediate difference all the way to the NFL. Great technique can be lost quickly.
This post was edited on 1/14/24 at 11:58 am
Posted by AkronTiger
Rubber City
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Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:28 am to
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Does a DB coach determine if the DB's get to play press or off the WR? Does a DL coach get to implement his own stunts? What's the advantage?


Also, no scheme looks good with inferior personnel. You may get lucky even for a game, but it can’t carry across a season.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
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Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:28 am to
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For those of us that aren't aware, what is the benefit of having a good DL coach outside of recruiting??



technique specific to the scheme being played.

and some places, the position coach is responsible for the rotation of players as well.


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At the college level, is there actually that much technique you can teach a player, that another coach hasn't taught him?


YES

talk to guys that have been to different schools. A lot of them will tell you something like "when they got to _______, Coach _____ really taught me a lot and changed the way I viewed things", etc.
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53417 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:30 am to
Defense breaks into position groups at practice. Your defensive coordinator implements his scheme while the position coaches focus on the fundamentals within said position group. The DC will still have oversight of the linebackers but the LB coach will be the one watching that individual group and making sure they’re tackling correctly and making the correct reads.

It’s like a store manager and a department manager.
Posted by jfw3535
South of Bunkie
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:33 am to
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At the college level, is there actually that much technique you can teach a player, that another coach hasn't taught him?

Did you see any of our attempts to tackle this past season? Clearly all those guys could use someone at the college level to teach them some basic fundamentals.
Posted by dukeg7213
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:37 am to
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For those of us that aren't aware, what is the benefit of having a good DL coach outside of recruiting??


common sense isn't so common is it?
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:37 am to
A lot of 4 and 5 star recruits dominate athletically in high school and don’t necessarily have the “skills” or technique to do so in the SEC. They need to be broken of their bad habits.
Posted by BlackAngus
350 Sonic Blvd
Member since Jan 2020
1963 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:39 am to
Always someone trying to insult you, behind a simple question. Since you're so knowledgeable just answer the question humbly.
Posted by BlackAngus
350 Sonic Blvd
Member since Jan 2020
1963 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:40 am to
Yea just like common courtesy. If you didnt like the question then just scroll. Dumbass
This post was edited on 1/14/24 at 11:41 am
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:41 am to
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At the college level, is there actually that much technique you can teach a player, that another coach hasn't taught him?


Players at the HS level are just playing on raw talent for the most part. College is where you separate the wheat from the chaf…
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162207 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:41 am to
Wasn't trying to insult you

A lot of these kids come in with really raw physical abilities and haven't had elite coaching

Even the guys from big powerhouse schools and sports academies still need some polish

The devil is in the details
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:43 am to
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You serious? To provide detailed coaching on technique to specific position groups.


To be less of a dick, say the following:


A position coach is not only teaching g technique but evaluating effort, positioning, body motion, how to keep head up annd eval what the offense is doing etc.

He offers feedback on how the player took his advice and can see pretty early if the player is coach able and deserves more pt.

There’s a lot more than recruiting.
Posted by dukeg7213
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2023
2906 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:43 am to
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Dumbass


irony. i'm the dumbass although you can't figure out why a position coach has significance other than recruiting. makes sense
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
8710 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:44 am to
Some players can lack technique and do well in college based on their athleticism and speed. The best position coaches can recognize this and develop a player to improve each year and increase his draft stock. Some kids with NFL potential never develop in college due to poor coaching and being played out of position.

Just one example, Danielle Hunter. He should have been a 3x All-American based on his size, athleticism, and potential. Brick Haley and Chevis didn’t teach Hunter any technique and never developed him. During his rookie season, Viking coaches commented how raw Hunter was and how little technique he had especially coming from LSU.
Posted by BlackAngus
350 Sonic Blvd
Member since Jan 2020
1963 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:46 am to
Yea as a day drinking chode im sure it does make sense to you..
Posted by BentonTiger7
Benton, LA
Member since Sep 2011
2300 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:47 am to
Danielle Hunter should answer this emphatically. He went through college coaching and still improved significantly in the NFL once he finally got good coaching. Nobody should look significantly better in the NFL than college yet he did due to finally getting coached correctly.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
6400 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:48 am to
Look the answer up on you tube. Plenty of instructional video teaching technique and drills. Each team is visited by game officials teaching points of emphasis for
The year. What was accepted last year may not accepted this year. Rules change.
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
3156 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 12:13 pm to
It’s quite obvious you never played sports in your life.

The players that make major SEC rosters have amazing athletic ability, have the body strength, and size to play at this level. However, a lot are raw when it comes to knowing and understanding the fundamentals needed to perfect the positions they are playing.

Elite coaching takes raw athletic ability and improves that players ability to perform at a higher level by learning better techniques and improving fundamentals. Elite coaching combines the ability to read your opponents to know when, why, and how to apply those techniques to beat your opponent.
This post was edited on 1/14/24 at 12:14 pm
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