re: What’s the threshold for a successful 2019 season for Orgeron?

11-1 is very realistic for this team and this season. Bama being the only game we will not have the clear talent advantage in, and I believe we are neck and neck with them in talent this season. The biggest impact and reason for optimism is burrow and our returning starters across the board on both sides of the ball. We could go undefeated, it is possible for this team to run the table. If we do lose 1, it will be to Bama. Any other losses are inexcusable.

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Why don't you just admit you want O gone right now..

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I do. Happy?

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You hate the guy and hope he fails..... FACT.

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Fiction, actually.

The fact that I think he'll ultimately fail and would prefer we had hired someone else or would make the change at any point has no bearing at all on whether or not I HOPE he fails. This has been explained to you over and over, so it's not that you don't understand. You're being willfully ignorant.

The fact that I don't THINK I'll win the Powerball and am open about that DOES NOT mean I hope I don't. It's no more difficult a concept than that...

Essentially what you and others are arguing in favor of here is that those of us who have disliked the Orgeron hire and era are more invested in being right about this topic than we are interested in seeing LSU football succeed. Thing is...I've been an LSU fan for decades, so while I enjoy arguing this topic, the idea that I'd root for LSU to fail to be right is fricking absurd. I'd gladly eat all kinds of e-shite and have Ed Orgeron become the next Bear Saban Lombardi than I would have him fail, LSU stagnate and get to tell anonymous jackholes on this board "told you so!!" Honestly...this accusation kind of feels more telling about the accuser than the accused, to whom e-cred may actually matter.

Of ALL the talking points around this topic, this one should have died long ago. It's makes the accuser sound like a god damned idiot any time it's suggested.

I'd rather make the CFP the Bama way by losing one game and not playing for a conference championship.

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BUT YOU think he should be right????????? And what good would that do dumbass???????

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Why is it so important to you that people admit that they want the coach gone? It's irrelevant and sidetracks the conversation every thread.

No one here has the power to get rid of him so it means nothing. If he wins the division or makes the playoffs all of his critics will have nothing to say. It's all under his control.

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I don’t see why people take the time to constantly talk bad about the guy.

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no one does this.

Lol.....

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Why would they waste time posting such garbage about the coach you say you root for

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There's a difference between rooting for the coach and rooting for the program. They usually coincide but not always.

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but I’m gonna say what I can to support him as much as I can

when he screws up I’ll be the first one to call him out on it... however he is the HC of the school I root for and I don’t see why people take the time to constantly talk bad about the guy.....

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Screwing up is different things to different people.

Just in this thread Pirate King said that 4 losses should only put him on the hot seat. I think 4 losses this season is grounds for termination. I think the majority of people think that, given our schedule and who we have coming back.

So everyone has to conform to Pirate King's level of support to not be seen as haters?

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most people root for a TEAM not a coach.

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Ok, Kansas fan..

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no one does this.

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Are you familiar with Damone or Goldrushes post history?

so it seems like we can agree that 5 losses will get O fired and 2 losses eliminates any hot seat talk