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re: What's the latest on McMullen?
Posted on 6/6/13 at 1:45 pm to dnm3305
Posted on 6/6/13 at 1:45 pm to dnm3305
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It's a fact that Mike Trout was a better baseball player last year than Cabrera, yet Cabrera won the MVP.
Gee, I didn't know subjective opinions are now deemed facts. You're teaching me so much about not only baseball, but life.
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 1:46 pm to dnm3305
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It's a fact that Mike Trout was a better baseball player last year than Cabrera,
No it really isn't. Cabrera really won in a landslide. The first place voting wasn't even remotely close. Mike Trout was a better baseball player last year than Miguel Cabrera is your opinion. Clearly, there aren't very many people in the world that agree with your opinion. I guess there is an outside chance that you are in the upper 1% of the population and have a set of baseball knowledge that is way above and beyond what any of us normal people can see or understand, and therefore, will eventually take over the front offices of all MLB teams and start a completely different line of thinking.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 1:47 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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No it really isn't. Cabrera really won in a landslide. The first place voting wasn't even remotely close. Mike Trout was a better baseball player last year than Miguel Cabrera is your opinion. Clearly, there aren't very many people in the world that agree with your opinion. I guess there is an outside chance that you are in the upper 1% of the population and have a set of baseball knowledge that is way above and beyond what any of us normal people can see or understand, and therefore, will eventually take over the front offices of all MLB teams and start a completely different line of thinking.
But but but... Jim Leyland is OLD
Posted on 6/6/13 at 1:47 pm to lsu2006
He is proving his point by comparing the 1% in his boat to Jonah Hill
Posted on 6/6/13 at 1:49 pm to PurpleAndGold86
I'm still not sure what his "point" is, besides his belief that your best overall hitter should bat 4th instead of 3rd, effectively erasing over 100 years of baseball knowledge and trends.
Also, it's preferable to have slow third basemen in the lead off slot.
Also, it's preferable to have slow third basemen in the lead off slot.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 1:50 pm to lsu2006
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Why not, if it's something that means so much to the "new school" guys who are apparently in EVERY front office? For as pervasive as you imply these types to be, you'd think we would see more people take on your philosophy.
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Everything ive stated so far throughout this thread would be backed by this book. Baseball is too traditional and old school. It is slow to change. As ive stated earlier, it still doesnt evne have fricking replay while football has been using it for over a decade.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 1:53 pm to dnm3305
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it still doesnt evne have fricking replay
Yes they do. I saw a homerun call get reversed just yesterday.
They are also going to expand replay in the VERY near future.
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Everything ive stated so far throughout this thread would be backed by this book.
So there's a whole 1% of you that have caught on that belief system? I guess one day the rest of us will catch on.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 1:53 pm to lsu2006
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Also, it's preferable to have slow third basemen in the lead off slot.
The thing that should have been discussed first and agreed upon is that OBP is the most proportionate to offensive production. Im sure most of you dont believe this either and still think RBI's are the be all to end all stat as well. Once you get past the fact that OBP is the most important stat to look at for scoring runs, then you can tweak the approach to the lineup.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 1:54 pm to lsu2006
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besides his belief that your best overall hitter should bat 4th instead of 3rd
I thought it was 2nd.
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Also, it's preferable to have slow third basemen in the lead off slot.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 1:54 pm to dnm3305
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Everything ive stated so far throughout this thread would be backed by this book.
So you'll side with three "baseball statisticians" to form your philosiphies instead of over 100 years of proof that the current system of batting orders is the most logical and effective.
You still haven't answered the question addressing why these new-age GM's haven't hired new-age managers to implement these sabermetrics from the ground up. I'm waiting...
Posted on 6/6/13 at 1:56 pm to dnm3305
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OBP is the most important stat to look at for scoring runs
Ok real talk. Mason Katz is hitting nearly .050 points better and has a OBP .045 points higher than Ibarra. Why slot Ibarra in the leadoff spot and not Katz?
Posted on 6/6/13 at 1:57 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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Ok real talk. Mason Katz is hitting nearly .050 points better and has a OBP .045 points higher than Ibarra. Why slot Ibarra in the leadoff spot and not Katz?
Posted on 6/6/13 at 1:59 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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So there's a whole 1% of you that have caught on that belief system? I guess one day the rest of us will catch on.
Look I could care less where Bregman hits. Hit him 3rd, 4th, doesnt matter. He will rake regardless and LSU will score because we have alot of players that can rake. The only thing that upsets me is that people are so caught up on staying with the status quo and never challenging the way things are done. We obviously can agree to disagree, no harm no foul. The main thing that blew all of this up was discussing Laird batting leadoff. That's really the point I was on and it went off on a tangent about sabermetric lineup construction. There is a very good chance that this philosophy will never catch on in baseball. Of course defensive shifting used to be thought of as idiotic as well.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 2:01 pm to lsu2006
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Ok real talk. Mason Katz is hitting nearly .050 points better and has a OBP .045 points higher than Ibarra. Why slot Ibarra in the leadoff spot and not Katz?
Because Katz has more power than Ibarra and is one of the top 2 hitters on the team. The most leveraged spot is the cleanup spot where OBP and Power is needed.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 2:02 pm to dnm3305
Never thought I'd see Miguel Cabrera, mike trout and Jonah Hill in a thread about LSU's leadoff hitter. Only in the Rant!
Posted on 6/6/13 at 2:10 pm to PurpleAndGold86
Miguel Cabrera won the fricking MVP because he won the triple crown. Period. That doesnt mean he was the best baseball player last year.
This post was edited on 6/6/13 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 6/6/13 at 2:14 pm to dnm3305
Which page of this thread can I find out about McMullen? 
Posted on 6/6/13 at 2:14 pm to dnm3305
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Miguel Cabrera won the fricking MVP because he won the triple crown. Period. That doesnt mean he was the best baseball player last year.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 2:15 pm to PurpleAndGold86
I don't know if strict saber batting orders will ever catch on, and it will likely be a long time if it does. On field decisions will always have the human element factored in. But he is absolutely correct that front offices are taking more of analytical approach than ever before in the building of their teams and organizations. It is probably best to have a mix of both worlds, old school and new.
The Astros actually have a "decision sciences" team and the director used to work for NASA before getting into baseball.
The Astros actually have a "decision sciences" team and the director used to work for NASA before getting into baseball.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 2:15 pm to dnm3305
Yeah and the voting wasn't close. Not even remotely close. So apparently more people thought he was more valuable to the Detroit Tigers than Mike Trout was to the Angels.
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