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re: What specifically is your beef with Coach E's offense?

Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:39 am to
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:39 am to
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Theyve convinced themselves that saying "our offensive players arent good enough" isnt bashing


But if you point to just a single area where the coaches could have done better, then you are a nega, retarded mother fricker, douchebag, stupid, idiotic, can't read, non fan.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:40 am to
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But if you point to just a single area where the coaches could have done better, then you are a nega, retarded mother fricker, douchebag, stupid, idiotic, can't read, non fan.


It's amazing how illogical they can be
Posted by p&g
Dixie
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:40 am to
Upvote


I think
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:41 am to
Yeah andnin real football

SCHEME MATTERS

Keeping your opponent on their heels matters.

You can run the same play over and over and over and win if you’re that much better but you aren’t always going to be.

Being unpredictable is important.

We are not unpredictable.

Oklahoma is good but no where near as talented as Alabama.

Their OL is all 3 and 4 stars too.
they still were able to score on bama.

They could score an anyone.

Because they have a good scheme.
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 9:44 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48014 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:42 am to
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Did we ever just pick on a corner or a LB that couldn't cover with a TE? No. 

I'll Add: 
- 3rd quarters in 80% of our games? WTF. You know damn sure your adjustments aren't targeted to weaknesses of the opponent when you come out of half and have your worst quarters of most games. That's 95% on design, scheme, and philosophy. 

- Red Zone is not the time to get "plain". That's when you get inventive. The wildcat, 4 times all year, was nice. But that's damn near just symbolic. Oh, and if my memory serves we scored 2 TDs in redzone out of that. 

- WTF? Dec and not all positions know audibles? What happened to Canada's offense being too complicated... now this. 

- RBs suck arse at blocking DL. Quit trying to have a RB block DEs/DTs by themselves. Just don't. Send them on a hot route instead. 

- You know, when you designate a RB to stay in and block committing to one side, they will send the cover LB to the other. Every damn time. Either don't keep him in, chip and send, or don't commit to a side at the snap. You might have read the blitz right, but they changed it at snap.


Agreed
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:42 am to
What’s talent got to do with jumping offsides?
Or getting your right arm wrapped around outside of a guy coming off the edge?
Or dropping a pass
Or making a bad read that goes for a pick 6
Or fumbling the all on a muffed punt

Seriously,
You people are beyond repair.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:44 am to
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What’s talent got to do with jumping offsides?
Or getting your right arm wrapped around outside of a guy coming off the edge?
Or dropping a pass
Or making a bad read that goes for a pick 6
Or fumbling the all on a muffed punt


Wait...you think talent doesn't play a part in being physically capable of doing all of those things?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:45 am to
Anything but blame the coaches.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:45 am to
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What’s talent got to do with jumping offsides?
Or getting your right arm wrapped around outside of a guy coming off the edge?
Or dropping a pass
Or making a bad read that goes for a pick 6


Do you believe that one of these things happened every single time LSU got to the red zone and failed to score a touchdown?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48014 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:47 am to
quote:

if you point to just a single area where the coaches could have done better, then you are a nega, retarded mother fricker, douchebag, stupid, idiotic, can't read, non fan.


Exactly.
They can constantly say," our players need to get better before we can expect to win a title" but youre a shite fan if you say." Our coaches need to get better before we can win a title".
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41304 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:48 am to
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agree some what. The last bama game we were trying different sets but once we realized we were going to get JB killed we went to max protect


And still got him killed because the only plays you can run out of max protect generally take a while to develop. I’d much rather us run more, quicker options than fewer, slow developing options.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48014 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:50 am to
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What’s talent got to do with jumping offsides? 
Or getting your right arm wrapped around outside of a guy coming off the edge? 
Or dropping a pass 
Or making a bad read that goes for a pick 6 
Or fumbling the all on a muffed punt 



The fact that you dont think these instances are execution isnt shocking.

Can you tell me who gets paid millions of dollars by lsu to improve execution?


For god sakes P&G, using this logic the coach isnt responsible for anything on the field.

If every player won their one on one battle a qb draw can score a td on every play. We all know winning your one on one battle has nothing to do with coaching, right?
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 9:53 am
Posted by wrongRob
Tampa FL
Member since Oct 2017
1282 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:53 am to
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This is just flat wrong. Don't pull the we don't have talent" card. Its bullshite.

You must not follow the team. LSU did not have a single returning SEC starter on offense returning from last season.
Name one!

The only thing that is bullshite is your above statement. The problem is you think LSU has talent on offense to compete for a Natty. Sniff my nuts mouth breather.
Posted by OppositeMan
Member since Apr 2018
1853 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:53 am to
Agree...I don't have a ton of confidence that he's suddenly going to become a favorable match up for us against the top defenses and coordinators.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:54 am to
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And still got him killed because the only plays you can run out of max protect generally take a while to develop. I’d much rather us run more, quicker options than fewer, slow developing options.


All you have to do is look at the OU vs Bama and LSU vs Bama game to figure out what our issues are.

On the first few drives OU was getting their arse smashed. The Bama DLine was in the backfield almost immediately. OU made adjustments on the fly, and ended up making it a game and being pretty successful.

LSU's first few drives looked exactly the same. Difference is, our adjustments either didn't happen, or they made things worse.

How people can sit here and say none of that is on the coaching is amazing to me.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48014 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:54 am to
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JB killed we went to max protect





Which is exactly the opposite thing he should have done. He brought MORE DEFENDERS tp the los of scrimmage and let bama bring in the strength of their team( front 7) instea dof spreading them out and attacking their weakness( pass defense)
Posted by TigerRagAndrew
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Member since Aug 2004
7254 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:54 am to
I don’t like the run game out of the zone read, but that could have been due to the less talented running backs we had this year.

I don’t like the slow developing pass routes especially with a bad OL.
Posted by OppositeMan
Member since Apr 2018
1853 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:56 am to
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LSU did not have a single returning SEC starter on offense returning from last season.
Name one!


Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48014 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:56 am to
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LSU did not have a single returning SEC starter on offense returning from last season. 
Name one! 


Name how many bama returning starters they had?


Name how many returning starters Clemson had.

This isnt the 1990's. Young kids play and show out.

Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69494 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:56 am to
Oklahoma may have the best oline in the country...the heisman winner at QB that ran for over 100 yds and you are really trying to compare what they did vs bama to us? holy frick the talent level offensively isn't even comparable
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