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re: What round do you see Deichmann going in?
Posted on 4/16/17 at 3:33 pm to Madking
Posted on 4/16/17 at 3:33 pm to Madking
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Wrong, sorry Fraley's arm is much better than Deichman's. Fraley has been clocked in the 90s throwing a baseball.
Maybe he was a bad outfielder then because that guy threw like crap to home. I'm not sure if you're talking about the same guy.
We complained for 3 years about the entire weak arms we had then.
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Posted on 4/16/17 at 3:36 pm to LSURussian
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a mix of speed and power is still a winning combo.
LSU is tied for 5th in the SEC in homeruns and is tied for 3rd in the SEC in batting average. We're also tied with S Carolina for striking out the fewest times in the SEC.
Even with all of our perceived hitting woes that seems like a decent "mix of speed and power." Not great, but not terrible either...
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Home runs
1. Arkansas............ 52
2. Mississippi State... 39
3. Kentucky............ 36
4. Missouri............ 34
5. Vanderbilt.......... 32
LSU................. 32
7. South Carolina...... 30
8. Alabama............. 29
Ole Miss............ 29
10.Texas A&M........... 28
Georgia............. 28
12.Florida............. 26
13.Tennessee........... 22
14.Auburn.............. 15
Is this SEC only?
Posted on 4/16/17 at 3:40 pm to Howyouluhdat
Deichmann was timed faster than Bergman, Mark Laird, Kramer Robertson as a Freshman. Dude can run
Posted on 4/16/17 at 3:44 pm to Tiger1988
quote:Do you think LSU has 32 homeruns in only 15 SEC games?
Is this SEC only?
So much for your self-proclaimed expertise in LSU baseball.
Posted on 4/16/17 at 3:47 pm to Tiger1988
I do remember Laird Jordan and Stevenson struggling with throws but don't remember Fraley being bad. Not saying I remember every throw he made, maybe he was inaccurate but his freshman year announcers constantly talked about him being timed at 91 mph throwing a ball from the outfield.
This post was edited on 4/16/17 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 4/16/17 at 3:50 pm to Adam4848
Last year Coastal Carolina 95 home runs.
This post was edited on 4/16/17 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 4/16/17 at 4:07 pm to LSURussian
So you're saying a lil more pop in the lineup wouldn't be beneficial?
Posted on 4/16/17 at 4:07 pm to tigerbait3488
My completely off the cuff uneducated opinion says rounds 5-10. He's got big league power and is a pretty good athlete
Posted on 4/16/17 at 4:13 pm to Madking
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but his freshman year announcers constantly talked about him being timed at 91 mph throwing a ball from the outfield.
It isn't uncommon for a college outfielder to throw 90 on a crowhop. It's not the same as throwing 90 from the mound
Posted on 4/16/17 at 4:20 pm to Madking
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Last year Coastal Carolina 95 home runs.
While I agree with this and that's what lead to much of Coastal Carolina's success during the regular season how many did they hit in Omaha when it really counted?
The answer: 2 HR's in 8 games
All I'm saying is that no team since the change of the bats has rolled into Omaha and continued to outscore opponents, it takes 2 really good starters and a really good closer. Beyond that the team generally has 1-2 very good power hitters surrounded by speed and athleticism.
Coastal Carolina was built differently last year but it was clear once they made it to the CWS they had to change their approach at the plate.
Posted on 4/16/17 at 4:33 pm to LSURussian
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So much for your self-proclaimed expertise in LSU baseball.
Didn't read the entire stats. Only looked at BA. Nothing else was in the discussion at that time.
Plus... you know where I'm going with this. How well are we doing against the 15 SEC schools thus far.
Take out the high and lows and average th rest.
How do we fit with the rest of the SEC.
Here endeth you and your constant defense of CPM. Go look at State and see your answer dumbass. Who did it? CPM could have hired a real hitting coach.
This team is so inconsistent even against bad competition.
This post was edited on 4/16/17 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 4/16/17 at 4:43 pm to Adam4848
I agree that hitting bombs was not the only thing they did. And that park is a graveyard but they did hit a ton of bombs last year. They didn't change their approach in Omaha they were just aggressive in every offensive aspect o the game. They stole bases they hit and run they hit for avg and power. That's a team to mold yourself after.
This post was edited on 4/16/17 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 4/16/17 at 4:52 pm to lsufball19
Well you're assuming the crow hop and it won't turn a good arm into a great arm. You may get 3 to 5 mph added with a crow hop. The highest anyone has Deichman among college prospects is 49th while Fraley was as high as 21 on some scouting reports. Besides homer fans it's not really a question as to who is the better prospect. And most of Fraley's upside was his defense and arm. People should read scouting reports instead of pushing their opinions as gospel.
This post was edited on 4/16/17 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 4/16/17 at 5:22 pm to Lester Earl
I realize this thread has veered off topic somewhat, but back on topic, I agree with Lester here.
This kid isn't showing just occasional power when the wind is right. He is hitting no doubters to all fields. Looking at the mechanics of his swing, he's not accidentally running into the ball.
Someone brought up track record earlier in the thread. I seem to remember this kid's name winning HR contests as a sophomore in high school at Perfect Game. Bryce Harper type of stuff.
I've watched him in RF this year and wondered out loud how he ever was made to struggle at 1st base. He covers ground and has a cannon arm.
I've also seen him hit routine grounders that turn into bang-bang plays at first. I'm not a scout, but I hear they value some of these things, and that as a group, they have big enough egos to feel like they can fix some of the little things, but they can't fix whether a man can hit a ball close to 500 feet.
This kid isn't showing just occasional power when the wind is right. He is hitting no doubters to all fields. Looking at the mechanics of his swing, he's not accidentally running into the ball.
Someone brought up track record earlier in the thread. I seem to remember this kid's name winning HR contests as a sophomore in high school at Perfect Game. Bryce Harper type of stuff.
I've watched him in RF this year and wondered out loud how he ever was made to struggle at 1st base. He covers ground and has a cannon arm.
I've also seen him hit routine grounders that turn into bang-bang plays at first. I'm not a scout, but I hear they value some of these things, and that as a group, they have big enough egos to feel like they can fix some of the little things, but they can't fix whether a man can hit a ball close to 500 feet.
Posted on 4/16/17 at 5:31 pm to Madking
Fraley was the prospect he was because he has the potential to hit for power. He hit some bombs while at LSU but has never lived up to that potential on a consistent basis hitting for power. Fraley looks the part of a 5 tool player but never has been.
Btw, not sure what scouting reports you claim you've read but most of them had Fraley as a mediocre arm bit good enough for center field
Btw, not sure what scouting reports you claim you've read but most of them had Fraley as a mediocre arm bit good enough for center field
This post was edited on 4/16/17 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 4/16/17 at 5:56 pm to lsufball19
Totally untrue by all accounts. Fraley's scouting reports mention nothing of power. Most of them talk about his patience at the plate and level swing plane as signs that he has potential as a lead off hitter. They also mention an electric arm and very good speed both on the bases and in the field. Not once have I seen anything about untapped power potential. Again something that was talked about early in his LSU career by LSU fans and media. Btw I've mentioned baseball America as one source already so someone who himself is giving false information with no sources accusing me of anything just enforces my point. Thanks.
This post was edited on 4/16/17 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 4/16/17 at 5:57 pm to Tiger1988
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Just watch him run to first base on infield grounders and see how close the plays are.
That could be where the ball is hit to how the player fielded the ball lol. Doesn't necessarily mean he is a plus plus speed player.
Posted on 4/16/17 at 5:58 pm to Lester Earl
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Deichmann was timed faster than Bergman, Mark Laird, Kramer Robertson as a Freshman. Dude can run
Link?
Posted on 4/16/17 at 6:03 pm to Howyouluhdat
I doubt there is one since it's not true.
Posted on 4/16/17 at 6:08 pm to Madking
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I doubt there is one since it's not true.
No shite. If you think Deichmann is faster than Laird & Robertson you are high
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