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re: What LSU MBB needs to do
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:36 pm to mcspufftiger7
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:36 pm to mcspufftiger7
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If Willl Wade lost his big man at McNeese they would be an averse team. He is a beast and their best player.Those who think losing Reed hasn’t made a difference in this team are idiots. Doesn’t forgive the TO which need to be addressed but not having Reed has factored into all 3 losses.
I'd love to have Reed. Robert Miller is getting minutes he's not ready to play yet because of Reed's absence and I think that is significant.
But I don't think the way we were using Reed pre-conference translates to the extent some do in SEC play. I think the teams we'll play would have been able to neutralize him more than the teams we played pre-conference.
I mean he was averaging 11 points per game pre conference, do we believe he'd be getting more in SEC play? He was averaging 6.5 boards pre-conference - same question.
If you were to use a baseball WAR type reference what would be Reed's wins against replacement for SEC play - how many more wins does it get us? Hard to say - would 2 be fair? I don't know.
Again - I'd love to have him. He's bigger and stronger and better than he was last year, but hard to say how much not seeing him in SEC play. If you pull back it's hard to say what the difference would be, but let's say he gives us two more wins, what does that mean. 7-11 conference play? Does that make us a bubble team given the strength of the SEC this year?
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 5:10 pm
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:36 pm to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
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mike williams vs curtis givens through first 14 games of freshman season:
MW3: 7.3pts, 1.8ast, 1.9reb, 37.8%fg, 31.9%3pt
CG3: 4.3pts,1.7reb, 1.7ast, 27.1%fg, 23.9%3pt
Williams was averaging more minutes through the 1st 14 games, so the per game numbers are deceiving.
quote:CG3 is passing the ball more and starting to come around on offense. I wouldn't start him but I would increase his minutes in the 1st half until Sears and Carter start better.
but yet curtis needs to start?? do you see something i dont see?
Posted on 1/5/25 at 6:14 pm to mmcgrath
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Williams was averaging more minutes through the 1st 14 games, so the per game numbers are deceiving.
There’s so much more that goes into this like roster construction and actual impact in those minutes played.
Maybe Curtis plays less because he does less when he’s on the court. Food for thought
Posted on 1/5/25 at 6:20 pm to mcspufftiger7
the last 3 games McNeese has blistered the opponents.
Without guard Alyn Breed who was scoring 18 PPG (injured)
Without Brandon Murray elite defender 8-9 PPG (injured)
Without Sincere Parker was scoring 14 PPG (injured)
Without PG Omar Cooper was dishing about 5-6 assists (injured)
Without PF Jerome Brewer averaged 12 ppg and 9 rebounds last year (injured)
McNeese was playing with a 6 maybe 7 man rotation it's last 3 games and have blistered their opponents each game yet no one is talking about the inuries that they have had because guess what, they are stilli winning!
Without guard Alyn Breed who was scoring 18 PPG (injured)
Without Brandon Murray elite defender 8-9 PPG (injured)
Without Sincere Parker was scoring 14 PPG (injured)
Without PG Omar Cooper was dishing about 5-6 assists (injured)
Without PF Jerome Brewer averaged 12 ppg and 9 rebounds last year (injured)
McNeese was playing with a 6 maybe 7 man rotation it's last 3 games and have blistered their opponents each game yet no one is talking about the inuries that they have had because guess what, they are stilli winning!
Posted on 1/5/25 at 6:30 pm to basiletiger
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McNeese was playing with a 6 maybe 7 man rotation it's last 3 games and have blistered their opponents each game yet no one is talking about the inuries that they have had because guess what, they are stilli winning!
maybe no one is talking about it because it’s the southland and the teams they beat suck. Two of them have 2 wins in January. It’s not like the beat the brakes off of good teams
Posted on 1/5/25 at 6:36 pm to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
McNeese was an absolute horrible basketball program before Wade arrived in lil ole bitty Lake Charles, La. with an enrollment of 5,000 students.
Sadly the talent level on McNeese squad is arguably about the same as LSU's talent level. THAT'S A BIG BIG PROBLEM!!!
PS...if you don't think the talent level is ultra similar, then you don't know basketball.
Sadly the talent level on McNeese squad is arguably about the same as LSU's talent level. THAT'S A BIG BIG PROBLEM!!!
PS...if you don't think the talent level is ultra similar, then you don't know basketball.
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 6:43 pm
Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:21 pm to mmcgrath
Basketball isn’t for everyone…please find a new hobby. You have the worst basketball takes I’ve ever seen.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:51 pm to Slim
quote:That may very well happen at the end of the season.
Release McMahon from his contract and hire a better more proven winner that can win at a championship level.
Don't yall remember the last year of Trent Johnson and Johnny Jones.
When it was a forgone conclusion that the party was over, LSU fans stopped going to games. The PMAC was a big empty cavernous morgue. (And that will happen this year for McMahon if he doesn't turn it around)
Year 3 is enough time. Shite or get off the Pot or GTFO................
Posted on 1/6/25 at 1:36 am to basiletiger
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PS...if you don't think the talent level is ultra similar, then you don't know basketball.
Mcneese is less talented and better coached. We are more talented and worse coached.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 4:13 am to mmcgrath
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mmcgrath
Just what we need, a liberal snowflake chiming in to tell us all how to fix the Men's Basketball Program.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 1:25 pm to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
You don't know basketball.....
Posted on 1/6/25 at 3:54 pm to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
but but but..............
Matt McMahon is a great X's and O's coach..................
I thought Will Wade could just pay players and recruit!!!????
Matt McMahon is a great X's and O's coach..................
I thought Will Wade could just pay players and recruit!!!????
Posted on 1/6/25 at 4:23 pm to mmcgrath
Looking at the schedule , I think they drop the next two on the road , come back home for a winnable game against Arkansas, course I thought they’d beat Vandy at home.
They lose to Arkansas and start out 0-4 , the wheels will come off .
They lose to Arkansas and start out 0-4 , the wheels will come off .
Posted on 1/6/25 at 5:11 pm to mmcgrath
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Sears and Cartee have one more game to prove their value, otherwise bench them
Brother, if at least Carter or sears are not on the floor, then we aren’t scoring. V miller has shown some flashes but isn’t ready to carry that load as the focal point of the offense.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 6:51 pm to Mats86
quote:That dude is an idiot.
Sears and Cartee have one more game to prove their value, otherwise bench themquote:
Brother, if at least Carter or sears are not on the floor, then we aren’t scoring. V miller has shown some flashes but isn’t ready to carry that load as the focal point of the offense.
It's the mccgrath and mcpuffinstuff show with terrible takes.
If we bench Carter and Sears, CoachMc will Xs and Os to a 40 point scoring show. At least Brady could make defense decent enough to lose 52-40 on a bad night. This shite would be 86-40.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 7:11 pm to mmcgrath
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Sears and Cartee have one more game to prove their value, otherwise bench them.
Benching the only 2 scorers on the team makes perfect sense.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 7:32 pm to drizztiger
I understand the frustration with sears. The vandy game he would go long stretches with negative contribution. He was getting bullied in the 1st half a bit. He might struggle with SEC guards, and it might be best to keep him off ball.
At the same time he scored 17.
At the same time he scored 17.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 7:34 pm to lsusiegel
quote:It's moronic.
Benching the only 2 scorers on the team makes perfect sense.
Not sure I know you, but these MBB threads get the most idiotic takes.
Who the heck is going to score if we bench Cam and Sears?
Yes, Vyctorius Miller has the potential to be a great player. But posting MBB brings out the dumbest MFRs.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 7:55 pm to drizztiger
Don’t worry, benching Cam and Sears won’t hurt us because we run that potent Jay Wright offense lol
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:06 pm to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
quote:Pretty sure Mike Williiams got more minutes early on because he was one of the few available options before Cook got eligible. Still played some afterwards because his play was solid.
There’s so much more that goes into this like roster construction and actual impact in those minutes played.
Maybe Curtis plays less because he does less when he’s on the court. Food for thought
CG3 isn't getting more minutes because there is a 5th year senior ahead of him who played well early on.
Williams not playing this year seems like something major happened, like he came in out of shape or something like that. Sad, because I really liked what he did for the team last year and was hoping he was going to be part of a solid 3 guard rotation with VJ and CG3.
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