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re: What is your X’s and O’s critique of McMahon and MBB?
Posted on 2/27/23 at 6:00 pm to mmcgrath
Posted on 2/27/23 at 6:00 pm to mmcgrath
You literally said “we lack height” so you’re being dishonest about that as well as us playing 3 seven footers last year, we had none, or me not mentioning Shareef when he’s obviously the 6-10 player from last years front line rotation I included. You’re just making shite up as usual.
Oh and BTW, you can pressure the ball without full court pressing. The fact that you don’t know this shows you know zero about basketball.
Oh and BTW, you can pressure the ball without full court pressing. The fact that you don’t know this shows you know zero about basketball.
This post was edited on 2/27/23 at 6:02 pm
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Posted on 2/27/23 at 6:05 pm to mmcgrath
“Would fit with your bs if you wanted to make last year's team look taller (which it was)”
Last years average players height- 6-6
This years average players height- 6-6
Serious question, do you ever say anything that’s true?
Last years average players height- 6-6
This years average players height- 6-6
Serious question, do you ever say anything that’s true?
Posted on 2/27/23 at 6:45 pm to Madking
quote:I said that regarding the half court defense and our guards, especially when we have to sub the one true SF who has really only played the last 6 games or so.
You literally said “we lack height”
In the full court last year's team could press with Eason, Days, Gaines, Fudge / Murray, and Pinson and create absolute havoc for the other team. This year's team cannot physically do anything like that. Simply not enough speed and defensive skill. That goes for extending pressure in the half court as well. They could switch 1-5.
This post was edited on 2/27/23 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 2/27/23 at 6:56 pm to mmcgrath
Besides the goal post moving how would you possibly know this team can’t do that? Nobody thought Wade’s teams could play D until he schematically changed entirely. Gaines, Days, Wilk, Shareef were all on the previous team that was considered to be Wade’s weakest defensive group. That group went from a team that was ranked in the 150-200 range on avg to a top 5-10 defense because of a design change. Why can’t McMahon do that?
This post was edited on 2/27/23 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 2/27/23 at 7:22 pm to Madking
quote:O'Neal barely played. Cam Thomas and Watford were the big minutes eaters and neither were playing defense worth a damn. But in your typical dishonest shtick you ignore them and even bring up a player who was in 10 games for a handful of minutes.
Nobody thought Wade’s teams could play D until he schematically changed entirely. Gaines, Days, Wilk, Shareef were all on the previous team that was considered to be Wade’s weakest defensive group.
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That group went from a team that was ranked in the 150-200 range on avg to a top 5-10 defense because of a design change.
What type of IDIOT do you have to be to say that the defense improved by a "design change" and not by the players who played the defense changing???
At this point you are nothing more than a troll who tries to post negatively about LSU sports. I hope the admins respond to you being RA'd for your continued nonsense.
Posted on 2/27/23 at 7:30 pm to HoopyD
A lot has been said and most of it is right. From my point of view our real weakness is overall guard play, especially when we play three at once. None of them shoot three's particularly well but continue to bomb away, sometimes off of one of our very infrequent fast breaks. I have to laugh when Juice or Cam pull up like they are Steph Curry and fire away without even taking advantage of numbers or at least drive it in closer.
McMahon's offense demands that you have guards who can beat their man off the dribble and drive it inside. Most of the time they can't do that and just dribble around the three point line or even further back to reset the offense with 5 seconds left on the shot clock. Of course the other problem is that even if the guard does get to the basket he throws up a weak shot that is either swatted or misses. We used to have guards who could drive down the middle and slam it. McMahon would have a heart attack if anybody did that on this team. We were always going to lose a lot games but it would have been closer if McMahon had adjusted to his team rather than demanding they do his crap over and over again with the same success rate.
McMahon's offense demands that you have guards who can beat their man off the dribble and drive it inside. Most of the time they can't do that and just dribble around the three point line or even further back to reset the offense with 5 seconds left on the shot clock. Of course the other problem is that even if the guard does get to the basket he throws up a weak shot that is either swatted or misses. We used to have guards who could drive down the middle and slam it. McMahon would have a heart attack if anybody did that on this team. We were always going to lose a lot games but it would have been closer if McMahon had adjusted to his team rather than demanding they do his crap over and over again with the same success rate.
Posted on 2/27/23 at 7:30 pm to mmcgrath
In other words once again you’re wrong. You have no rebuttal, the things you say are false and you deflect again.
Posted on 2/27/23 at 7:37 pm to mmcgrath
quote:I'm going to chime in here... Wade recognized the lack of defense and was adjusting to find that balance. He did it twice imo and first didn't work, so he tried again. That's what you want your coach to do - recognize the problem and address it. So last season we improved drastically on defensive efficiency, but took a step back on offense with Miller ACL and Pinson injury. He was trying to learn and putting it together.
What type of IDIOT do you have to be to say that the defense improved by a "design change" and not by the players who played the defense changing???
quote:You're the bigger troll about LSU Basketball than MK. And that's a fact. Other shite is irrelevant.
At this point you are nothing more than a troll who tries to post negatively about LSU sports. I hope the admins respond to you being RA'd for your continued nonsense.
Posted on 2/27/23 at 7:41 pm to drizztiger
This is how you know that moron is clueless. For his logic to be true, Wade only changed schematically after his players proved to be great defenders which means mid season. That of course isn’t just untrue, it’s historically stupid but in his mind it makes sense because he thinks it’s perfectly normal and valid to conflate two different time periods. He’s as ignorant as it gets to the point he can’t even see how absurd the things he says are.
This post was edited on 2/27/23 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:24 pm to Madking
mmcgrath might be the dumbest poster on TD. He is completely clueless on every topic on every board
Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:31 pm to Sun God
quote:I don't see him on other boards, I prefer to keep thoughts isolated. That said, for LSU Basketball, he has to be related to Coach Mc, or just has a need to be contrarian.
mmcgrath might be the dumbest poster on TD. He is completely clueless on every topic on every board
Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:33 pm to CP3forMVP
This may have been the longest post I've ever invested the time into reading on TD without losing interest, because you conveyed some excellent points that make sense. Good job with this critique and thanks for sharing your insight.
Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:34 pm to Sun God
He wanted the last guy fired because in his opinion he was a bad coach. Now he’s doing what idiots do and doubling down on stupid so he’ll say anything to knight for the new guy. He’s not a McMahon fan, he just needs McMahon to win so he can try to save face.
Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:55 pm to CP3forMVP
This is the reasoning behind the long scoring droughts.
Posted on 2/27/23 at 9:30 pm to HoopyD
The offense runs good sets. We just can't shoot the ball
Posted on 2/28/23 at 12:11 am to Madking
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Besides the goal post moving how would you possibly know this team can’t do that?
because eason and gaines were magnificent athletes and were massively enrgetic. brandon murray played hard and is strong and athletic. they dont have anyone close to those guys level on defense now.
the guys they have now are smaller, slower, and less skilled.
This post was edited on 2/28/23 at 12:12 am
Posted on 2/28/23 at 1:20 am to jamarr
You’re taking a result and projecting it onto players and situations prior to the actual season. Gaines was here 2 years ago and opponents wouldn’t even guard him. He was behind Cam Thomas, our worst defender by a lot, in defensive win shares and last on the team in +/-. Tari Eason had a similar arc, went from 0.9 DWS at Cincinnati to 2.5 under Wade at LSU. That’s a huge jump. Same for Darius Days, went from awful defender who couldn’t guard any position to a very good defender. You see the common denominator here? These guys were not “great defenders” prior to last season, changes were made by the coach and they were developed into highly productive defensive players after the fact. As far as the talent and size statements those have been debunked dozens upon dozens of times so I won’t waste time doing that again.
This post was edited on 2/28/23 at 1:34 am
Posted on 2/28/23 at 1:34 am to Madking
quote:
You see the common denominator here?
yes, those guys were vastly superior athletes. nobody on the team can run down the court and dunk hard like eason and gaines and murray could. running fast and dunking hard are indicators of superior athleticism and defensive potential.
these players this year are not long explosive athletes, and have a far lower defensive ceiling.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 1:38 am to Madking
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As far as the talent and size statements those have been debunked
talent claims have been debunked? who on this team has eason level talent? or brandon murray talent? those guys were excellent on both sides of the court who could score and defend and played with max effort and tremendous athleticism. eason was a first rounder!
Posted on 2/28/23 at 2:04 am to jamarr
Again you’re taking a result, that the coach produced and ignoring the process which allowed it to happen. That’s a lazy argument. Eason was the 94th ranked player in his class, Murray was the 89th. We have 5 guys on this years roster ranked higher. Eason did nothing at Cincinnati, how could a supreme player be so inefficient and ineffective? Brandon Murray’s defensive win shares have severely dropped by 1.5, his +/- has also fallen off a cliff, why is that happening to such an elite defender who’s ppg has gone up? It’s very simple, one coach had the ability to change and adjust to get the most out his guys while the other has no idea what to do with the talent he has. Anyone who follows basketball knows this.
This post was edited on 2/28/23 at 2:12 am
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