What is the basketball equivalent of the hockey "Plus Minus Rating" Statistic?

Its called plus minus Or sometimes on/off


Regardless, its a terrible stat

I think it's a great hockey stat. Why not in basketball?

You're correct.

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Rk Player G GS MP PER TS% eFG% 3PAr FTr PProd ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% OWS DWS WS WS/40 OBPM DBPM BPM ? 1 Kavell Bigby-Williams 27 18 559 25.4 .680 .689 .000 .598 211 14.3 19.9 17.1 4.0 1.1 10.5 11.8 15.2 1.9 0.9 2.9 .204 4.7 6.0 10.7 2 Darius Days 27 3 412 20.7 .595 .563 .459 .252 154 15.5 15.6 15.5 3.9 3.1 2.7 10.8 16.1 1.3 0.7 1.9 .186 6.1 2.3 8.3 3 Skylar Mays 27 27 876 19.5 .590 .525 .531 .434 341 1.2 9.6 5.4 11.7 3.4 0.6 9.6 18.7 2.6 1.1 3.7 .171 6.2 1.9 8.0 4 Tremont Waters 26 24 847 21.8 .550 .503 .437 .346 435 1.0 9.2 5.1 34.2 5.0 0.4 20.2 26.1 2.0 1.3 3.4 .158 5.5 2.2 7.7 5 Emmitt Williams 26 7 524 20.4 .650 .627 .053 .649 199 15.2 16.0 15.6 3.4 0.9 3.2 16.7 16.3 1.5 0.6 2.1 .161 4.0 1.2 5.2 6 Marshall Graves 7 0 43 15.5 .573 .538 .769 .154 14 2.7 8.0 5.4 4.0 1.3 2.6 0.0 15.5 0.1 0.0 0.2 .156 4.8 -0.6 4.2 7 Marlon Taylor 27 17 631 12.7 .565 .530 .351 .507 182 6.6 11.1 8.9 3.7 1.7 1.1 15.7 14.9 0.9 0.6 1.6 .100 2.4 1.1 3.5 8 Naz Reid 27 25 691 20.3 .560 .518 .239 .390 342 10.6 19.1 14.8 6.6 1.7 3.8 17.8 27.1 1.4 1.0 2.4 .140 1.6 1.5 3.1 9 Ja'vonte Smart 27 14 792 13.0 .484 .427 .382 .288 291 1.9 10.7 6.3 14.2 2.6 0.4 14.9 21.5 0.9 0.9 1.8 .091 1.1 1.2 2.2 10 Will Reese 6 0 22 9.5 .333 .333 .333 .000 6 10.5 10.4 10.5 15.1 2.6 0.0 14.3 15.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 .046 -0.1 1.4 1.3 11 Daryl Edwards 9 0 154 8.2 .523 .485 .606 .333 42 3.0 7.5 5.2 11.7 1.1 0.7 23.9 15.6 0.1 0.1 0.2 .049 0.7 -0.2 0.5

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So it is Bigby, Cool.

I'm not going to argue if it's a good stat or not, I simply lack the expertise to comment. Hence the reason I brought it here for an explanation.

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I'm not going to argue if it's a good stat or not

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It's a great stat. Values play at both ends of the court. Most basic function of sports, does your team score more points than the other team while you are in play.

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does your team score more points than the other team while you are in play.

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It’s one component of 10 that are on the court at the same time. You shouldn’t put much stock into it

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It would seem so. But dude above is vehement in his disagreement and I really haven't taken a deep-dive into why it may/may not be a great stat.

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It’s just the simplest and most easily calculated player metric. Meaning there are better ones that include more factors.

Like PER in the nba for example.

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Sometimes the output tells you everything you need to know about the worth of the input

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Yeah, and that output tells you not to use it on a single-game basis. The career BPM leaders are Jordan, LeBron, Barkley, Paul, and the Admiral.

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Looks a bit better that way, doesn't it? The single season leaders are 2017 Westbrook, 2009 LeBron, and 1989 Jordan. The more data, the better the stat works. It's fairly useless on a game-by-game level, but it works really well over a career or even a season.

It's the problem +/- has in hockey: goals are fairly rare and sometimes random, so you can end up with really weird +/- results, though it evens out over a career (leaders are Larry Robinson, Orr, Borque, Gretzky, and Bobby Clarke). It's also why analysts use shot attempt +/- in hockey instead (Corsi). Because basketball has so much scoring, the rarity of goals isn't as big of a deal, but it still needs about a half season before I'd read anything into +/-. I like it as well, though it is obviously team-dependent.

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Yeah, and that output tells you not to use it on a single-game basis

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I gave you 5 years worth of data, but it appears I filtered on highest individual game

Here is cumulative plus/minus leaders over the last 5 seasons. It still shows the stats faults......





Also, you posted BOX plus/minus my friend.....Which is far more useful than standard plus/minus