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re: What do yall think the weekend rotation should be?

Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:43 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:43 pm to
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He doesn’t score runs. He doesn’t produce runs - RBIs.


again, a product of who hits around him. He spent 28 games hitting 7-8th. and 3 more hitting 6th. He saw 11 games hitting in the 5 spot, in which LSU went 10-1. Not exactly prime RBI spot or run scoring spots hitting down in the lineup.

Being honest here, but Ive never seen someone who claims to know so much about baseball focus so much on batting average, runs scored, and rbi.

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He doesn’t field well


He didn't field well. Freshman playing out of position, yea it didn't go well. It doesn't mean he hasn't improved. Im sure reps over 2 more offseasons have helped his fielding.


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That’s what the stats show


That stats show he gets on base at a 40% clip in his career and that in itself is valuable. Acting like hitting a lot of singles is a bad thing. There is value here.


Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:50 pm to
Last year he had a 0.667 field%. 4 ground balls were hit at him and he booted two of them. The other two chances were putouts. Small sample size but he didn’t field any better this fall.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:52 pm to
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Small sample size


yea, kinda. he started 1 game at 3B last year.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:56 pm to
I said what his value was. Working a pitcher a little more. But when he’s on first, he won’t score on a double. When he’s at 2nd, he won’t score on a single. Outside of triples and HRs, to score he would need two good things to happen. Walk and double, single/double, and so on. Is that partially on those hitting behind him? Sure. I said as much. But stats don’t lie. Slow people score fewer runs.

Again, you aren’t saying anything new. You are hanging on his average and OBP (from two years ago). But anything beyond that is ignored. Last year didn’t happen? You’re going to lean that hard on “no one was on base when he hit and no one hit when he was on base”? That’s weak.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:57 pm to
For a reason. Slaughter and Smith were better. Still are. One is hurt. The other is a better fielder and hitting it hard.
Posted by LSUcuttinup225
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:11 pm to
Last year is last year at this point I have very little faith in slaughter at the plate he's done a good job at 3rd but the few times Reid has got to bat this year ( from the games I've been to) he's smashed the ball jake doesn't even look comfortable at the plate right now Reid should be playing now until jake earns his spot back by coming in when their down or up big like Reid does now.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:15 pm to
If last year was last year, can we tell people to stop using Reid’s average and OBP from 2 years ago?
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:17 pm to
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Keep Slaughter at 3B. He's not striking out and he's hitting lots of balls hard they just aren't finding grass. I'd rather him fight through this now while the competition is easy than to bench him and watch as Reid struggles to play baseball.


This is the right answer. He has been ridiculously unlucky. The rant cannot abide a slump, though, so this will remain unpopular. He'll have to hit a game winning HR or flip off a pitcher to get back in good graces.

As far as the rotation? Keep it the same until Stortz Labas, or Sanders comes around. Hopefully one of them can take over Saturday and push Gilbert where he probably should be - the Sunday starter.

Unfortunately this might take another month.
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 3:19 pm
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:22 pm to
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So you don't like facts that prove you wrong. Got it.


Well, you're quoting poor fielding and hitting stats, for Reid, from last year. It was a very small sample size. A better indicator would be what he did two years ago as a starter.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:33 pm to
Astro put this together before the 2017 season. Returners and their 2016 stats. How he finished with only 14 RBI on 13 hits wRisp as simply impressive.

Posted by Swain
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:41 pm to
I know its memory/anecdotes, but I just seem to remember a ridiculous amount of weak infield grounders that found a hole long enough for even a slow runner like Reid to reach.

That could certainly contribute to such an odd stat, but again that's just my recollection from 2 years ago.
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:17 pm to
Im not going to sit here and argue that reid is a better player than slaughter, but slaughter has made a couple errors in the field this weekend, i wouldnt mind rotating them lefty vs righty pending
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 6:36 pm to
Hess
Gilbert
Veitmeir
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 7:26 pm to
He has one error on the year, josh.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 7:31 pm to
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You’re going to lean that hard on “no one was on base when he hit and no one hit when he was on base”? That’s weak.


Brandt Broussard has 10rbi and he is a singles hitter. Why? Cause people are on base when he hits

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You are hanging on his average and OBP (from two years ago).


His OBP is right at .400 over his career not just freshman year

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When he’s at 2nd, he won’t score on a single



Lol you dont really believe this do you? Slow runners score from 2nd with regularity across all levels.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:44 pm to
Not all hits (even singles) are created equal and you know it. Chris had 14 RBI with 13 hits with RISP. That’s borderline impossible and goes right against your “guys always score from 2nd on singles” BS.

And go into Brandt’s stats a little further. He has no Ks. So he’s getting RBIs on outs too.

Do y’all not realize that this stuff is researchable?
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 9:46 pm
Posted by 9th Green At 9
From where they make gumbo at
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:53 pm to
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Hess Gilbert Beck Keep Slaughter at 3B. He's not striking out and he's hitting lots of balls hard they just aren't finding grass. I'd rather him fight through this now while the competition is easy than to bench him and watch as Reid struggles to play baseball.
Its really scary how much you and I think like. Do you by chance drink Natural Light as well?
Posted by 9th Green At 9
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:56 pm to
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Veitmeir
Only has two pitches. He is a bullpen guy for now until he develops a third. Hard to get through lineup twice with only two pitches.
Posted by redfieldk717
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:05 pm to
He drinks semen
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 5:09 am to
He has one error officially. He also couldnt corral a popup in foul territory a couple nights ago, and has made some bad throws to first that were saved
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 5:10 am
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