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re: What do yall think the weekend rotation should be?

Posted on 2/27/18 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 12:02 pm to
yeah, that wasn't even meant for you. More for the guy who started the "player sucks" conversation.
Posted by ByUselves
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 12:02 pm to
As in football, the backup is always better. Our starting staff has struggled, Hess did have a great start Friday, once he settled in.
Going forward, I would leave Gilbert as the Saturday starter for now, he needs to get his fastball back on track, he is not spotting it where he needs it to be. Plus, it hasn't had much movement on it either.
Sunday starter is up in the air. Was really pulling for Todd Peterson to get it going, but it hasn't clicked for him, yet. We have several BP guys that may be able to step up to a starter, which one would be a trial and error type of thing.
Was surprised to see Hughes & Broussard have such a powerful impact on our offense, hope it continues. If and when Smith comes back, he may not be playing SS, if HH continues to play & hit like he did this weekend. Slaughter made a lot of contact, made some tuff plays, and misjudged a couple of popups, but still is struggling. Reid is a good backup, so he will always be a fan favorite, but I don't see him as an everyday player with the talent LSU has.

Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 1:05 pm to
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Give me an hour or so and I'll get those stats together...
Chris Reid hit 0.337 in SEC only games during the 2016 regular season. Really good. He was 31 for 92 by my count (there may be something official out there with different totals). He started the first weekend vs bama going 1-9 with no runs or RBI. He sat the next series vs A&M (Deichmann played 3B!).

He went back in vs AU and got on a hot streak. Vs AU and Vandy he was 8 for 22! But those hits meant very little production. 3 runs 2 rbi over both weekends.

He stayed "hot" vs Mizzou and state going 7-22. but again the production 2 runs 3 rbi. One in each game where we won 9-7, 15-2, and 12-8.

The next week vs Ole Miss, he had a 4-4 game in an 8-2 loss. He scored a run.

He biggest contribution was the Arkansas game where he got an rbi hit in the 9th as part of the Rally Possum game. He had 3 hits. Good for him.

So with 31 hits and 18 walks, he scored just 13 runs and 8 RBI. The run total is low and is partially due to the people batting behind him... but that's not the main reason. It's hard to score lots of runs when all you do is hit singles and you're slow. The season totals show that even moreso. His run/PA rate was 13.2% which was lower than Romero but not as bad as Pap at 10.8% although Pap hit 45 points lower. Even worse are the RBIs. He had 14 all year. That was BY FAR the lowest rate and only 4 more than O'neal Lochridge who played in 40 fewer games.

So here's what you get with Reid AT HIS BEST: Someone who doesn't score runs or knock in runs. His best attribute is extending a pitcher with a walk or single (rarely when it matters - RBIs) but he's too slow to get around to score without two hits or a HR or a walk + xtra base hit.

And again... this was TWO YEARS AGO. And he still has a 0.909 career fld% which everyone who knights for him completely ignores.
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 1:15 pm to
Lets put bain at 3rd and rotate slaughter and reid at dh
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 1:19 pm to
I don't see how you can call Chris Reid slow, he was used as a pinch runner once. (once)

Also, would a slow runner get an in the park home run like Reid did? (I urge you to not remember or look up the circumstances of this HR)
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 1:21 pm to
I hope people take you seriously.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 1:22 pm to
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I hope people take you seriously.



slow day ?
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 1:33 pm to
I used the Runs Scored % formula from Baseball Reference to calculate Reid's percentage over his career. I didn't include games as a pinch runner, because it would take too long to look up, but leaving that out only serves to inflate the percentage.

This number is out of context but Reid's run scored percentage is 31.3%. Meaning he scored roughly about 31% of the times he was on base.

For those wondering about the formula:

(R-HR)/(H+HBP+BB-HR+G_pr)
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 1:37 pm to
Expected Runs Table

For some context... Ried is basically the average of someone always on 1B.
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 1:38 pm
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 1:39 pm to
Additional context: From Reid's freshman year when he hit .287 he had a 30.9% Runs Scored pct.

Beau Jordan hit .286 and had a 31.3% Runs Scored Pct.

ETA: What on earth is going on at the NOAA?
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 1:41 pm
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 1:40 pm to
I wouldn't touch Hess and Gilbert. Gilbert is struggling right now but he'll break out of it. I can't explain what he's going through right now, but he was very good last season and he was excellent in the fall and spring. This came out of nowhere, and he will be fine.

The Sunday starter? I don't have nearly the confidence in Peterson that I do Gilbert. I would probably give Beck a shot at that spot, and know that Labas and Storz are potential guys that could be used there as well.

As for Slaughter, we are coming into a down part in the schedule with lesser competition. Give Slaughter the chance to hit out of this rut he's in right now.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 1:59 pm to
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ETA: What on earth is going on at the NOAA?
Spit out my water.
Posted by F Secunda8
Member since Mar 2017
280 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 1:59 pm to
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He's not striking out and he's hitting lots of balls

Off the end of the bat and lazy fly balls. He’s not barreling up the ball. So I’d say Chris Reid has been hitting the ball harder, though it gives up some defense.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86812 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:01 pm to
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Off the end of the bat and lazy fly balls

Top exit speeds from today's game:

Nick Webre 105.8 mph
Jake Slaughter 102.5 mph
Daniel Cabrera 102.0 mph
Brandt Broussard 101.3 mph
Austin Bain 100.9 mph
Jake Slaughter 100.5 mph
Beau Jordan 99.4 mph

Top exit speeds from today's game:

Nick Webre 107.0 mph
Austin Bain 102.7 mph
Daniel Cabrera 102.3 mph
Nick Coomes 102.2 mph
Brandt Broussard 101.1 mph
Austin Bain 100.8 mph
Jake Slaughter 100.3 mph
Hunter Feduccia 100.0 mph
Daniel Cabrera 99.7 mph

Top exit speeds from today's game:

Jake Slaughter 109.0 mph
Nick Webre 103.7 mph
Beau Jordan 101.4 mph
Brandt Broussard 100.6 mph
Jake Slaughter 100.2 mph
Chris Reid 99.5 mph


You were saying?

ETA: This just from this weekend. He hit 5 balls harder than 100 mph. Next closest was 3. Reid had zero.
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 2:05 pm
Posted by F Secunda8
Member since Mar 2017
280 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:12 pm to
I’ll eat spoon on that one. But you have to admit, he has more lazy fly balls and roll overs than arguably anybody in this lineup.
His 100+ mpg exit speed was no doubt the deep center fly ball. Not deep, more at the center fielder but he gave it a ride. The kids not hitting that greag I don’t understand how many people can argue for him to get many more chances. Mainari loves his defense.
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 2:14 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:22 pm to
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he has more lazy fly balls and roll overs than arguably anybody in this lineup.
Does he?
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His 100+ mpg exit speed was no doubt the deep center fly ball.
All 5 of them? You sure?
quote:

The kids not hitting that greag I don’t understand how many people can argue for him to get many more chances.
Yes. 0.043 isn't great. Good catch.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
74181 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:25 pm to
If every game looked like Sunday, I'd get it. But what we have is a bunch of people complaining about what they read in the box scores. Because it's pretty obvious they aren't watching the games if they think Slaughter was popping out feebly all season.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86812 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:27 pm to
I'm convinced only 9 people on TD watch the games. And 5 of them don't know what they're seeing.
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 2:28 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285272 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:31 pm to
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Even worse are the RBIs. He had 14 all year. That was BY FAR the lowest rate and only 4 more than O'neal Lochridge who played in 40 fewer games.



function of who is on base, much like scoring runs is a function of who hits you in.

im actually surprised you posted your findings as they dont back up what you were saying at all.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86812 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:36 pm to
He doesn’t score runs. He doesn’t produce runs - RBIs. He doesn’t field well. He gets on base and gets stuck there. That’s what the stats show. I literally picked his best games from sec play and the best he could do. Between those sec games, he was 0-Fer in every midweek game besides Southern. It would have been worse if I added those.
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