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re: What do UGA and Texas have in common that have made them so successful?
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:22 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:22 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
NIL is pay for play and nothing to do with image and likeness. Nobody would recognize these people if they walk in front of them on the street.
And for some reason, LSU is not just giving cash on potential. The entire situation must be causing major dissensions on teams. Imagine some guy walking off the street getting double your pay after starting for a year and busting to make it 3 years in the program.
And for some reason, LSU is not just giving cash on potential. The entire situation must be causing major dissensions on teams. Imagine some guy walking off the street getting double your pay after starting for a year and busting to make it 3 years in the program.
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Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:29 pm to RockinRobin1955
Kirby is in year 8. He is not three years from having 39 players. 2020 and 2021 years were very bad for the LSU brand and roster. Completely different situation. Unfortunately because of Orgeron we got zero uptick in recruiting from the NC.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:30 pm to RockinRobin1955
Nick Saban
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:41 pm to mhc4tigers
The NCAA is giving the sky screamers what they wanted with NIL basically being pay for play and unlimited transfers with immediate playing opportunity. The NCAA is gonna let the fans and schools reach a fever pitch and then they’ll step in, after we’re groveling at their feet, and make kids sit out a year after transferring or limit the number of times someone can transfer.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 1:04 pm to RockinRobin1955
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Georgia’s success isn’t built on transfers. Over the past four full recruiting classes (2021–2024), Georgia brought in just 19 transfers
When your classes are top 3 each year, you dont need transfers. Thats like saying rich people dont use coupons. Well, they dont bc they don't need to
Posted on 12/9/24 at 1:07 pm to RockinRobin1955
It took UGA 4 years to get the program to the level that it is now. Texas has not won a NC since Vince Young.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 1:08 pm to RockinRobin1955
Both have great player development, that seems to be the difference, signing talent is great but developing that talent to their full extent is most important
Posted on 12/9/24 at 1:14 pm to LSBoosie
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You have pointed to the class of would be juniors this year that haven’t worked out as a reason for LSU’s shortcomings. That class of would be juniors next year is going to be just as bad.
2023 is in line to have 12 players on next years roster , most who contributed this season so they will be in line to contribute next as well.
2022 had like 5 that contributed & three were OL. Perkins was of course injured.
It’s not ideal but certainly will be a large improvement next year of upperclassmen contributing to the roster
Posted on 12/9/24 at 1:32 pm to Lester Earl
I'm not defending the 2022 class, more so saying that the 2023 isn't very good either. Guys like Toviano, Chester, Jackson, Mubenga haven't done much to get me excited about them being contributors next year.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 2:07 pm to RockinRobin1955
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Hmmm
This post was edited on 12/9/24 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 12/9/24 at 2:54 pm to RockinRobin1955
Georgia relied on talent good coaching and hard work....Texas relied on Stankey gifting them two solid years of powder puff scheduling!
Posted on 12/9/24 at 3:15 pm to RockinRobin1955
How many of the 41 transfers were from his first season at LSU?? He inherited a crap show.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 3:16 pm to RockinRobin1955
UGA's success comes from Mark Richt leaving Kirby with a treasure trove and him not starting a takeover in an NIL and transfer portal era.
He was able to become established almost immediately. Georgia is a talent rich state, top 4, and he borders Bama, Florida, and the Carolinas. He had clout from being with Nick Saban through a billion championships as well. By the time everything started changing, he was established. He got buy in before the drastic shift.
Texas's success was that it was effing Texas. People act like Tom Herman didn't get top classes. Sark was also another one propped up as a Saban disciple. He definitely improved Texas, but he's in Texas and aided by Texas billionaires. They were also aided by the easiest schedule in the SEC.
Let Kelly cook. He's dealing with different circumstances.
He was able to become established almost immediately. Georgia is a talent rich state, top 4, and he borders Bama, Florida, and the Carolinas. He had clout from being with Nick Saban through a billion championships as well. By the time everything started changing, he was established. He got buy in before the drastic shift.
Texas's success was that it was effing Texas. People act like Tom Herman didn't get top classes. Sark was also another one propped up as a Saban disciple. He definitely improved Texas, but he's in Texas and aided by Texas billionaires. They were also aided by the easiest schedule in the SEC.
Let Kelly cook. He's dealing with different circumstances.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 3:48 pm to TigerMonkey7
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Well whenever all of your commits are getting offered over a million $ it’s kinda of hard to build solely through high school. And other schools like Texas and UGA keep upping the offer until our commit flips to them so frick them.
I kinda disagree here.
Texas 100% came back to relevancy in the NIL era because they could absolutely go buy players.
Georgia was already in a good place and then they happened to get the next generational coach. Once he showed kids everywhere that he was the real deal and would have Georgia competing for titles / constantly putting talent in the NFL, now kids just want to flock there.
Very, very different routes if you ask me.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:12 pm to RockinRobin1955
The only correct answer is money
Posted on 12/10/24 at 2:37 pm to RockinRobin1955
Why do we act like Kirby took over some dead in the water program. Richt handed him the keys to a program that was already extremely competitive and had done everything except win a title. He upticked the recruiting a bit and he coaches a great defense. That’s the difference. Texas had the easiest sec schedule while also having some crazy money
Posted on 12/10/24 at 7:00 pm to PUB
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NIL is pay for play and nothing to do with image and likeness.
I've posted variations of that statement since NIL became a thing and always get negged for it. I guess some people can't deal with the truth.
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