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re: What coaching changes do you expect this year?
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:50 am to PP7 for heisman
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:50 am to PP7 for heisman
My question is will we ever have a good OC under Kelly. He brought up Rees and Sloan and seems unwilling to go outside his system for an OC. I don't think the OC is the problem, I think its the guy hiring the OC
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Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:57 am to ForTheWin81
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My question is will we ever have a good OC under Kelly. He brought up Rees and Sloan and seems unwilling to go outside his system for an OC. I don't think the OC is the problem, I think its the guy hiring the OC
Total Offense Under BK:
2022: #27
2023: #1
2024: #20
Points Per Game Under BK:
2022: #28
2023: #1
2024: #55
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:57 am to ForTheWin81
quote:We had a top 5 offense in the history of the sport last year. Where do you people come from?
My question is will we ever have a good OC under Kelly. He brought up Rees and Sloan and seems unwilling to go outside his system for an OC. I don't think the OC is the problem, I think its the guy hiring the OC
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:03 pm to tlsu15
I think Sloan gets another year.
Mostly because of the execution issues.
there are some moments and some games were i really felt play calling was bad, but for the most part we had no ability to run the ball, regardless of the play called.
there were times where you could tell he was throwing the kitchen sink at the run game and nothing was working too well.
Mostly because of the execution issues.
there are some moments and some games were i really felt play calling was bad, but for the most part we had no ability to run the ball, regardless of the play called.
there were times where you could tell he was throwing the kitchen sink at the run game and nothing was working too well.
This post was edited on 12/9/24 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:04 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Ok, I googled it. Sloan’s not doing too great.
But, you might be right - Sloan might well have called plays at LA Tech. Seems he was OC there. Not sure that makes him qualified to do it in the SEC.
Ok, I googled it. Sloan’s not doing too great.
But, you might be right - Sloan might well have called plays at LA Tech. Seems he was OC there. Not sure that makes him qualified to do it in the SEC.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:12 pm to p226
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Ok, I googled it. Sloan’s not doing too great.
But, you might be right - Sloan might well have called plays at LA Tech. Seems he was OC there. Not sure that makes him qualified to do it in the SEC.
Fans always want to blame playcalling, Lincoln Riley is an elite playcaller and we'd all take him over Sloan.
Points Per Game
Riley - 29.8
Sloan - 28
Yards Per Game
Riley - 440.7
Sloan - 436.6
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:19 pm to SidewalkTiger
How many coordinators has BK gone through in 3 years?
The subject of the thread is coordinator changes. Not roster management.
But Kelly isn't much better at that either
The subject of the thread is coordinator changes. Not roster management.
But Kelly isn't much better at that either
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:27 pm to Cuz413
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How many coordinators has BK gone through in 3 years?
The subject of the thread is coordinator changes. Not roster management.
But Kelly isn't much better at that either
He's on his second set, I mean House is 100% his fault but it's hard to blame him for Denbrock (and Baker potentially) leaving.
That's far better than O hiring retreads without interviewing them and random young guys like Peetz.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:29 pm to PP7 for heisman
We had a few pretty fricking good players on that offense. Who couldve fricked that up? If Rees was made so good by him why didn't he land another job? Were you impressed by that offense this year with Sloan? Did you see great scheming or innovation? We ran a jailbreak screen against OU and the commentaters said that Sloan put that in that week, it took til the last week in the season to put in a screen. Simple minded motherfrickers.
This post was edited on 12/9/24 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:33 pm to SidewalkTiger
1. frick Lincoln Riley.
2. I don’t think comparing Riley PPG and YPG to Sloan proves that Sloan is good.
3. Is that USC offense for this year? Cause Riley’s reputation for being a great play caller was built on offensive production years ago. What was PPG/YPG of his offenses at OU with Mayfield and Murray?
Read the article I posted - sloan’s who we’re talking about. He’s not good. So not good that anybody can see it.
2. I don’t think comparing Riley PPG and YPG to Sloan proves that Sloan is good.
3. Is that USC offense for this year? Cause Riley’s reputation for being a great play caller was built on offensive production years ago. What was PPG/YPG of his offenses at OU with Mayfield and Murray?
Read the article I posted - sloan’s who we’re talking about. He’s not good. So not good that anybody can see it.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:41 pm to p226
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2. I don’t think comparing Riley PPG and YPG to Sloan proves that Sloan is good.
It doesn't, my point is that fans make playcalling 80% of the problem when it's usually more like 20%.
Even elite playcallers aren't immune to execution issues.
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3. Is that USC offense for this year? Cause Riley’s reputation for being a great play caller was built on offensive production years ago. What was PPG/YPG of his offenses at OU with Mayfield and Murray?
Riley had a great offense last year, #11 in yardage and #2 in scoring.
quote:
Read the article I posted - sloan’s who we’re talking about. He’s not good. So not good that anybody can see it.
That's an opinion from a blogger, he isn't any more qualified to judge Sloan's performance than anyone here.
Only BK can accurately do that.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:49 pm to tlsu15
For the love of God, BK please hire a special teams coach.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 1:07 pm to ForTheWin81
quote:And the offense looked entirely different after all players (including the quarterback) had one year in the system.
We had a few pretty fricking good players on that offense.
quote:You mean like the offensive coordinator at Alabama? Then Deboar took over in mid January. Not much time for Rees to find a job at that point. He still ended up in the NFL
If Rees was made so good by him why didn't he land another job?
quote:Offense was down across the conference this year. Sloan was only bad in the redzone. Really inside the 10 yard line. The offense moved the ball well all year.
Were you impressed by that offense this year with Sloan?
quote:Well this simply isn't true. We ran screens throughout the season.
We ran a jailbreak screen against OU and the commentaters said that Sloan put that in that week, it took til the last week in the season to put in a screen.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 1:23 pm to PP7 for heisman
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Sloan was only bad in the redzone. Really inside the 10 yard line.
And I don't know if that's even just him being bad, it's hard to be effective in the red zone with a combination of a pocket passer, no run game, and a weak interior offensive line.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 2:01 pm to SidewalkTiger
All fair points. I think Sloan totally sucks, but I can’t say FOR SURE the problem is all him.
But on the other hand …. There’s no question Denbrock is better than Sloan at play calling, better OC.
But on the other hand …. There’s no question Denbrock is better than Sloan at play calling, better OC.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 2:05 pm to p226
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But on the other hand …. There’s no question Denbrock is better than Sloan at play calling, better OC
Probably, he's much older and has a lot more experience. That said, I am not in the camp that believes Sloan was only given the job because of Underwood. I think they believed he could do it competently and carry over some continuity.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 2:05 pm to UnluckyTiger
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Hope Brad Davis is replaced.
Offseason worthy thread?? Check.
Midseason level ignorance?? Double check.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 3:13 pm to tlsu15
quote:Would be nice to get a Special Teams coach. Unfortunately I don't expect Brian Kelly to make that change. He seems pretty stubborn on this topic.
What coaching changes do you expect this year?
Posted on 12/9/24 at 3:21 pm to tlsu15
I look for LSU to bring in a special teams coach with college and NFL experience to get this unit going in the right direction. I expect that changes will be made possibly by eliminating the dual OC duties between Joe Sloan and Cort Hankins, with maybe a new OC and Sloan being a QB coach as he once was, and Hankins remaining WR coach. We will find out for sure after the bowl game.
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