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re: What are your goals for the basketball program?

Posted on 3/4/22 at 3:23 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 3:23 pm to
It’s not hard to be good at one thing. The championship caliber teams are all good at both
Posted by TFS4E
Washington DC
Member since Nov 2008
14165 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 3:55 pm to
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It’s not hard to be good at one thing. The championship caliber teams are all good at both

Well, yeah, but I think it's a positive he has shown he can coach either. Up until this year the big question was "can he coach defense?"

Now the answer is "yes, he can", but the question becomes "can he do both at once?" I would rather the "can he do both?" than wondering "can he coach defense at all?" let alone do both.

That latter is scarier proposition than wondering if he can put it together. We will see.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290826 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 4:08 pm to
It’s more the players change than he can “coach” both
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70547 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 4:16 pm to
Well that’s not entirely true, he changed his defenses multiple times to try and accommodate the players. The man to man defense we play now is nothing like the man to man defenses we’ve played in the past and he’s also added more trapping and different types of pressure defenses to highlight it. Just look at Days, he was a terrible defensive player his first 2 years at LSU and is now a solid to very good defender. That’s coaching and development on the defensive end.
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 4:32 pm
Posted by StAugFLTiger
Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 4:29 pm to
That hurt you liberal nut job. Lol
Posted by TFS4E
Washington DC
Member since Nov 2008
14165 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 4:32 pm to
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It’s more the players change than he can “coach” both

I'm not sure I agree that is the whole story. You've seen a fundamental shift in the way we play defense this year which I'll grant you is likely because of the type of player we have but it also shows a shift in the way Wade coaches that side of the game. Again, we will see, but I doubt Wade sees how his team plays defense this year and goes "nah, let's not try to do that again!"

A 5 pt per 100 possession increase in offensive efficiency would put us closer to a top-25 offense and a regression of 5 opponent pt per 100 possessions would put us closer to a top-20 defense. shite, even a regression of 10 pt would still be top-75 and the 3rd best defense since he's been at LSU (after this year and 2018-19).

Wade's teams have shown they can play efficient offense and now an efficient defense, so even if the offense improves closer to historical success and the defense regresses towards the "average", that's the makings of a good (to possibly great) team.

Who knows if that is possible but that's where I am optimistic about the possibility of putting it together.

ETA: his best team so far was #12 AdjO and #59 AdjD at the same time and went to the Sweet 16
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 4:39 pm
Posted by LSUKAT
Birmingham, AL.
Member since Dec 2007
1440 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 4:33 pm to
I am fine with Will Wade. He is still a very young coach in his 30’s think what he will become in 10 - 20 years with experience in every aspect of his learning, teaching and recruiting. Maybe I am in a minority of fans but I like his fiery personality and he is very intelligent. The players like his fiery approach and loyalty to them. He is certainly better than Williams at A&M, equal or better than Bama’s Coach, Florida’s and Georgia who are all older than him. Get behind him and LSU, let’s Geaux.
Posted by LSUKAT
Birmingham, AL.
Member since Dec 2007
1440 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 4:35 pm to
Remember he lost his best offensive player before beginning of season. Could have been a huge difference in our game.
Posted by StAugFLTiger
Member since Jan 2022
1505 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 4:37 pm to
We witnessed some good ball prior to Jones and Trent...if you are saying 20 years then you witnessed a final four. Hopefully we get there again soon but I don't see it. Sincerely hope I'm wrong. The problem I have with you is you think you are some johnny come lately expert when there are many like us that have gone through 5 coaches. You will get there one day and there will be younger kids that think they know it all and think you are an old timer that knows nothing. Have a good day.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70547 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 4:42 pm to
We lost 86% of our offensive output from last season and in the off-season fans had no idea how we were going to be able to cobble together enough talent+experience to even be competitive this year. 86% is unimaginable for anyone outside of blue blood programs who can just bring in multiple first rounders every year to be a competitive team again and had we avoided the injuries who knows where we’d be right now.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70547 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 4:47 pm to
Wrong, I mentioned the final 4, you always ignore facts because they don’t support your narratives. You’re also wrong about how long I’ve been a fan, I’ve watched and been involved with basketball a lot longer than you buddy, I can promise you that.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16395 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:20 pm to
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What would you consider a consistent basis?



It’s an inexact science and what I want might not be aligned with what the majority wants. The point of it all is the build a sports franchise that makes money for the school so I look at it holistically rather than just basketball or just football…. Although football is THE number one sport that needs to be strong as it is the most financially impactful sport in all of ncaa.

If we can build a program that is strong in football, basketball and baseball plus either track and field, volleyball and probably gymnastics then the program will earn tremendous amounts of money.


What I want in particular is just my perspective and while admittedly in the high end of the scale, it’s a guarantee to pack the house and make a lot of money.

I’ll say this- I watched LSU make it to the 8 and final four and the energy was amazing. I saw 2 of those game live. The fan base ate it up.

So I think getting to the 8 is the mark. Fans get onboard with that possibility. Final four and the cement hardens.

Wade has had 8 years and Hasn’t done it.
Sorry but he hasn’t. Can he do it? I think so but with all the talk about refs out to get him, Perhaps he’s hamstrung from a higher power.

So I support going out and getting a high priced guy that can help round out our overall sports program with a top basketball program
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 6:09 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70547 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:51 pm to
Again, who do you want to hire that would guarantee that or even better than what Wade’s done in 4 years? You have been asked a dozen times and you’ve never given an answer. This high priced, and gettable person must be someone you have in mind or are you just inventing someone that doesn’t actually exist?
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 6:12 pm
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16395 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 6:12 pm to
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Again, who do you want to hire that would guarantee that or even better than what Wade’s done in 4 years?



Not my job or expertise to know who would be that guy. When we hired Wade, I recall thinking that he might be that guy and after reading up on him, I was certain that he was.
Now - not so sure.

But hey, you clearly are onboard with what Wade does for lsu and that’s great. I want more
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70547 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 6:18 pm to
Like I said you’re just making it up because that person doesn’t exist and you don’t follow basketball so you don’t know any coaches anyway. Criticism without answers is foolish and destructive. “I want more” without the patience or understanding of how to get it is basically a child crying for a toy.
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 6:36 pm
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16395 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:03 pm to
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Like I said you’re just making it up because that person doesn’t exist and you don’t follow basketball so you don’t know any coaches anyway.


No dude. I don’t have to know anyone. I don’t get paid to know who.
and you are so enthralled with Wade that you can’t see past him.
Are you honestly going to tell us that Wade is the best that we can get?
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 9:31 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70547 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:46 pm to
You don’t get paid to shite post either but you do that. You don’t answer the question because you can’t, you don’t know enough about college basketball. And this sad hiding place you always run to about people worshiping Wade is totally false, you can’t point to a single post of anyone ever saying he’s perfect or he’s the best coach ever. It’s just another deflection and asking me to answer a question you refuse to answer is one more example of that.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
10485 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:48 pm to
Start making the tournament consistently and make a run to the final 4 occasionally. Hopefully we can win our first NCAA tournament ever eventually.
Posted by bayoubilly57
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
605 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:53 pm to
SEC IS STACK THIS YEAR
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70547 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:57 pm to
You said your standard is the elite 8 every year when not a single program in the country does that. This just shows how ignorant you are. You think it’s football and instead of educating yourself about the sport or god forbid actually following it you just keep making these ridiculous statements.
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