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What are Will Wade's flaws as a head coach?

Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:44 pm
Posted by Soup Sammich
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:44 pm
*Long Post but I don't care. I feel too good about LSU basketball and Will Wade's direction with this team. *

Not talking about coaching experience. I seriously have nothing. I can't think of any missteps from him since the day he was hired until now. He inherited a really bad team and pulled of the impossible by having a winning record and even flirted with the Big Dance.
-Absolutely embarrassed ULL's coach that will affect him for the rest of his mediocre career. Wades credibility keeps getting better everyday.
-pulls in a class that immediately makes LSU contenders for the National Championship as early as NEXT year. Seriously. This incoming group plus the Oregon center being eligible is that good. Maybe a few grad transfer shooters or big men could be possible also.
- like in Gladiator, he has won the crowd and demands respect already.
- yeah I'm overly excited about an NIT game but don't care. This is the rebuild year and Wade still won more than he lost. Next year LSU will be the most feared team in the country no later than January. Will Wade will look at next year as a huge failure if the Tigers don't get to at least the Final Four.

It's on now. I see Waters and Smart getting a crazy amount of assists in alley oops. All the rebounds will be ours. Its gonna be Dunk City like Florida Gulf Coast University a few years ago.

Also I may be singing a different tune if they look bad next game but it will be only temporary. Year 2 is enough time for Wade and I believe!

But seriously, basing on just his small sample size at LSU, what is something people don't like or worried about with his coaching and leadership that I'm not catching with my biased mind?
Posted by Tigerfan7218
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:45 pm to
He can be a bit hot headed in the wrong spot (see Alabama in the PMAC earlier this year), but yeah he's got the basketball IQ and recruiting to be a great coach
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:46 pm to
My only real complaint are his sets, or lack thereof, in a final few seconds situation. None of our looks were particularly good in the 7 or 8 games we had them.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:47 pm to
I’m not a basketball fan so I can’t dispute what you’ve said, but a National championship contender next year? Is our incoming class really that good? That seems overly optimistic, but again, I don’t follow basketball so I can’t dispute it.
Posted by Tigerfan7218
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:48 pm to
I'm kinda curious if he has them (I can't imagine he doesn't) but with all the other shite he had to work on with this team they kinda got pushed aside... Also the set to beat A&M on the road was great, but not well executed
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:48 pm to
Not being Coach K in terms of coaching accomplishments, that’s really about it
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:49 pm to
It may be lack of execution. But they were never particularly good.
Posted by Tigerfan7218
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:50 pm to
Yeah, agreed, we'll see if they look differently next year with his crop of players... Also, I'm still in the mindset of just HAVING sets for certain situations is a big step from Johnny and Trent Johnson who had no clue
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:53 pm to
I love Will Wade, but no missteps?

How about hasn't corrected the entire team going under screens all season?
Posted by Soup Sammich
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:13 am to
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I’m not a basketball fan so I can’t dispute what you’ve said, but a National championship contender next year? Is our incoming class really that good? That seems overly optimistic, but again, I don’t follow basketball so I can’t dispute it.


It is over optimistic because its a 2nd year young coach and winning the NCAA Tourney is a lot of luck. But these recruits and Bigby-Williams are program changers.

Bigby-Willams is a 6'11 former Junior College player of the year. Went to Oregon thebmn here. He is going to block a lot of shots and rebound. Reminds me of a Tyson Chandler type center.

The blue chippers are 5* 6'9 PF Naz Reid who will be a 1 and done most likely.

6'7 Emmitt Williams 5* PF that could develop into a small forward.

Javonte Smart 6'4 Combo Guard that is a composite high 4* but a 5* in some publications.

Darius Days 6'7 PF high 4* that may play small forward.

They are all impressive and then you have Waters, Mays, Sampson???, Edwards, Sims, Rachal and possible Kiir.

Depth and talent but losing Bigby-Williams and probably at least Reid after 1 year makes next year possibly the best threat for a deep run.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:15 am to
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How about hasn't corrected the entire team going under screens all season?


Huh? Are you saying they should be going under, or they aren’t going under?

You realize that depending on the location, ball handler, and defender you go over or under.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:18 am to
Let me preface this post by saying I love Wade and have total confidence in him. There’s only been a couple of flaws I’ve seen. One flaw I’ve seen is that he can publically be overly critical of his players and team. I know you want accountability and honesty but he’s really bashed some guys this season. The other is probly specific to this years team and it was that he sacrificed some of our strengths to play his style of game. Personnel wise we really didn’t have much on defense and we lacked physicality on the glass, what we did have was scoring talent and depth at the guard position. Instead of maximizing our strength, which was scoring, and try to outscore teams he kept looking for the right defensive lineup to create stops. Now I know you want to instill your principals but you can still do that while playing a style conducive to the talent on hand. We should’ve gone more up tempo with a more offensive style and tried to outscore teams with this group. That’s not really a flaw but more of a decision that might’ve been more about the future yet cost us a game here or there this season. Other than that the only mistake that comes to mind was the overtime game at South Carolina where they jumped out to a 5 then 9 point lead and Wade never called a timeout. That was poor coaching but that’s about it as far as mistakes and flaws I’ve seen and with a roster full of guys he didn’t recruit some of that is simply growing pains and talent limitations. When his people start coming in next year he and his team will be the talk of the town and I can’t wait.
This post was edited on 3/15/18 at 12:23 am
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 1:05 am to
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You realize that depending on the location, ball handler, and defender you go over or under.

Yeah, and I said that they are going under all the time. Maybe try to read next time.
Posted by Tigerfan7218
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 1:10 am to
I agree with you to an extent, but at the same time I can't really find fault in him wanting to instill his systems and philosophy in year one... We all thought this was basically a throw away year, and the fact that he's got this team playing above expectations is pretty damn impressive
Posted by AlbinoGator
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 2:53 am to
He's at LSU
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 3:40 am to
quote:

One flaw I’ve seen is that he can publically be overly critical of his players and team. I know you want accountability and honesty but he’s really bashed some guys this season.


His is not a flaw. Some guys need to be pushed. Mainieri is said to the same thing. They know there guys and they know which ones can handle that type of push through the media and which ones can’t.

You won’t see what his true flaws are vs what this particular team just wasn’t good at until next season or the one after.
Posted by JR Hamilsbach
Member since Oct 2010
797 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 7:19 am to
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What are Will Wade's flaws as a head coach?


With the caveat of being a big fan of Wade, our inbound plays seem to be underwhelming, which has been the case for years. Seems like we continue to be prone to turning it over inbounding the ball under our basket and don't really run any creative plays to try to get easy looks when inbounding on the offensive end?
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 7:42 am to
He has them going under (see State at home). We hedged more high screens with Epps and Sims last night than we did probably all year.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56318 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 7:54 am to
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*Long Post but I didn't read


Lack of sportsmanship. Just because the other guy acts like a jackass doesn't mean you have to top him.
Posted by pellietigersaint
Tiger Stadium
Member since Aug 2005
19043 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 7:56 am to
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Golfer


Maybe you should go to the driving range
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