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re: What are all of these "adjustments" that should have been made?

Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:10 pm to
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:10 pm to
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I know if Ross bunts in the 8th it's 4-3


You don't know that though. At that point, you only had 5 outs to work with and the bunt would not have directly scored a run. Are you really willing to give away one of the last few outs of your season?
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:12 pm to
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make the pitcher bring the ball down in the zone and hit more line drives/ground balls instead of fly outs and pop ups.


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This is the type of adjustment that can be made in a game.



You just lost any shred of credibility you may have had left.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:12 pm to
Anybody who even implies that Ross should have bunted in the 8th yesterday is a fricking retard.

Down by 2 runs with 6 outs left in your season, you are not playing for ONE run.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:15 pm to
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Stevenson had a better postseason (regional, super regional) than Foster.

That does not mean in any way, shape or form that he is a better hitter than Foster

The only thing I Mainieri should have done IMO is take Stevenson out of the lineup for another hitter. You could even move McMullen to right in that scenario and so you wouldn't be restricted to putting an outfielder in the line up

Not that it would have changed anything. One batter doesn't make that difference
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:15 pm to
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So why weren't you complaining about this team all season then


We won more games than any other LSU team

You asked a question (obviously your comment "serious question" wasn't serious) I answered.
Posted by ScottieP
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:15 pm to
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Nope. It was painfully obvious after Ibarras 2 bombs that were caught on the track that swinging at elevated pitches was not a good hitting strategy. Harder to hit line drives because you have to get on top of the ball to do so. make the pitcher bring the ball down in the zone and hit more line drives/ground balls instead of fly outs and pop ups. This is the type of adjustment that can be made in a game.


Anyone remember the 98 CWS. LSU was hitting bombs the 1st 2 games. a front came through and the wind turned around and LSU just kept hitting fly ball after fly ball. You think Skip didn't try to get those guys to make "adjustments". Come on people.

Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:17 pm to
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That does not mean in any way, shape or form that he is a better hitter than Foster


But I thought everyone wanted to bench the guys that were slumping, and play the hot hitters???

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Not that it would have changed anything. One batter doesn't make that difference


Exactly, but Stevenson's glove has kept LSU in past games.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:18 pm to
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I know if Ross bunts in the 8th it's 4-3

Anyone that thinks that bunting was the answer yesterday and the reason why we didn't win is seriously fricking stupid.

I guess the knowledgeable baseball people on here think that everytime a guy gets on base, the next one should bunt. And if they don't and a guy gets a hit a couple batters later they can say, "Oh we should have bunted and we would have scored". Our fans are so incredibly stupid - or at least the ones on this site.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:18 pm to
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We won more games than any other LSU team


So is that on Mainieri too, then?

I just don't get your argument.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:19 pm to
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You just lost any shred of credibility you may have had left.


So you are saying in game adjustments don't and can't happen?
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:19 pm to
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We play in a homerun friendly ball park. That doesn't translate to power in big parks...see Hoover and Omaha.

Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:19 pm to
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swinging at elevated pitches was not a good hitting strategy


Swinging at high fastballs wasn't their "hitting strategy". I can promise you they weren't going to the plate thinking "Boy, I hope he throws one of those fastballs letter high because I am going to come out of my shoes swinging at it if he does".

Hitters get fooled. That's why if you succeed 30% of the time you are a hall of famer.
Posted by ScottieP
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:20 pm to
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Exactly, but Stevenson's glove has kept LSU in past games.


Stevenson benched is one "adjustment" I would have liked to have seen. He was almost an automatic out. I know his defense was stellar but I thought Foster earned more pt after the SEC tourney.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:20 pm to
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So you are saying in game adjustments don't and can't happen?


Not to the drastic point to where all of the sudden we can press a button and BOOM we get flat fastballs right down the pipe or BOOM bunt placed perfectly down the baselines.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:21 pm to
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But I thought everyone wanted to bench the guys that were slumping, and play the hot hitters???

And those people are idiots. But Stevenson is a .180 hitter on the year, not a .350 hitter who went cold. There is a huge difference. And as for Stevenson's defense, I don't think he's any better in CF than Laird, and with a pitching staff like we have, I think you just have to trust them and put an extra bat in the lineup

ETA: I don't think Stevenson starts next year
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 1:21 pm
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:22 pm to
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And as for Stevenson's defense, I don't think he's any better in CF than Laird


No, he's not. But Laird is better than Foster is in RF. And if you take Stevenson out of the lineup that is the change you would be making. PM takes Stevenson out of the lineup late in just about every close game and bring in a pinch hitter.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
78849 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:23 pm to
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ETA: I don't think Stevenson starts next year


Depends on Fraley and DeHart.

I think Stevenson is by far our best defensive outfielder. Laird has the speed as well, but he doesn't take the smoothest of routes to some balls in center, but that's nitpicking only because Stevenson looks so natural out there.

If he can bat .220 (big if), he will start.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:25 pm to
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You don't just "adjust" the lineup that you have had all year that has made you one of the top producing offenses in the nation because you have one off night.


We go 5-0 in post season to reach the CWS.

There is really little time in 2 games to be making much in the way of line-up adjustments.

Hitting was a problem in the 1st game, but we still win if not for errors.

We get hitting in the 2nd game, but it's not timely hitting.

20/20 hindsight is always perfect.

We came up short, but great year, players and coaches.

Posted by ScottieP
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2004
1933 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:25 pm to
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swinging at elevated pitches was not a good hitting strategy


It wasn't their strategy. CPM said before the CWS started that they set up the pitching machine to throw belt high fast balls to try and get the guys to either lay off or to get on top of them.

It didn't translate to the game.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:25 pm to
Foster is no slouch in RF. He made a very nice diving catch in the SEC tourney and has more arm strength than any other outfielder. With our pitching I think you can take that risk.
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 1:28 pm
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