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Posted on 3/9/12 at 4:58 pm to Tiger Authority
quote:So stats are irrelevant because we can argue them both ways. See how this works. It won't matter what I show you, you are an LSU fan and will always believe the lSU player is superior and will give the LSU player every benefit of the doubt.
Works both ways.
Posted on 3/9/12 at 4:59 pm to Tiger Authority
quote:I never invited you to argue with me. Why do you think it is necessary for you to do so?
And I can't argue with you. You think that. Okay.
This post was edited on 3/9/12 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 3/9/12 at 5:01 pm to WDE24
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So stats are irrelevant because we can argue them both ways.
What? I said it works both ways in regard to your statement in which you give those players a pass because they have more senior laden talent. Like Alabama some offensive juggernaut this year and nobody could find a place to score points if it didn't come from a senior.
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It won't matter what I show you, you are an LSU fan and will always believe the lSU player is superior and will give the LSU player every benefit of the doubt.
No, I just think it's not worth arguing over something like your feelings on players. They're your feelings. I'm just noting that Hamilton was the most productive of the group, and to discount that based on unproven factors isn't really worth debating.
Posted on 3/9/12 at 5:01 pm to WDE24
fricking star gazer. You obviously don't watch basketball if you mentioned Lacy. I have no idea what everyone saw in him.
He has two star athleticism and skill. Randolph is solid.
Take Green off that team and we are the better team without question.
He has two star athleticism and skill. Randolph is solid.
Take Green off that team and we are the better team without question.
Posted on 3/9/12 at 5:02 pm to WDE24
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I never invited you to argue with me. Why do you think it is necessary for you to do so?
You showed up on our board to tell us that other players are more talented in your eyes. What did you expect to happen?
Posted on 3/9/12 at 5:06 pm to Tiger Authority
quote:Then why are you trying to debate it?
I'm just noting that Hamilton was the most productive of the group, and to discount that based on unproven factors isn't really worth debating.
I simply responded to the OP, who incorrectly said Bama only had 1 freshmen starter and stated that Bama's true freshmen probably have more talent than anyone on LSU's team.
LSU was/is a mediocre basketball team this season.
Posted on 3/9/12 at 5:06 pm to Tiger Authority
quote:The horror.
You showed up on our board to tell us that other players are more talented in your eyes.
Posted on 3/9/12 at 5:07 pm to tuptiger
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You obviously don't watch basketball if you mentioned Lacy.
quote:Tiger Authority won't agree with that because Lacy has better numbers.
Randolph is solid.
Posted on 3/9/12 at 5:08 pm to WDE24
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Then why are you trying to debate it?
Because I don't want this board to become some haven for every SEC joker that thinks his "feelings" are worth sharing over here. We have enough of our own fans that do that.
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stated that Bama's true freshmen probably have more talent than anyone on LSU's team.
Yeah, thought this was a pretty worthless comment all things considered, which I've pointed out.
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LSU was/is a mediocre basketball team this season.
I realize you think this somehow affects me in the scheme of this debate but this is common knowledge and I'm not sure what you think you proved.
I'm going to eat boiled crawfish with some buddies, you stay mediocre Auburn.
Posted on 3/9/12 at 5:13 pm to Tiger Authority
quote:I offered a pretty tame and reasonable response to the thread. I took no jabs and didn't flame anyone. You seem a bit too territorial and thus our conversation can't be productive because you are engaging more in a turf war than a legitimate conversation.
Because I don't want this board to become some haven for every SEC joker that thinks his "feelings" are worth sharing over here.
quote:Your feelings are as inconsequential as mine.
Yeah, thought this was a pretty worthless comment all things considered, which I've pointed out.
quote:I'm not out to get you buddy. I think you are a bit too defensive.
I realize you think this somehow affects me in the scheme of this debate but this is common knowledge and I'm not sure what you think you proved.
Posted on 3/9/12 at 5:42 pm to WDE24
Lacy must be better because he was a 5-star. Disregard he is slow, unathletic and can't shoot.
He is the third best freshman at Alabama.
He is the third best freshman at Alabama.
Posted on 3/9/12 at 6:00 pm to WDE24
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I simply responded to the OP, who incorrectly said Bama only had 1 freshmen starter and stated that Bama's true freshmen probably have more talent than anyone on LSU's team.
This was Bama's lineup today
PG: Releford
SG: Randolph
SF: Steele
PF: Green
C: Jacobs
The only reason Jacobs starts is that he is replacing Tony Mitchell, who has been indefinitely suspended. If you want to count Jacobs as a starter, even though he's only started a handful of games, then Bama has two freshman starters. I still wouldn't classify that as a "freshmen laden" team, which is what the original poster classified them as, which is what I was responding to.
I can count the number of times Lacy has started on one hand.
JOBIII and Hickey are unquestionably better than every Bama freshman. I'd rather have Isaac than Lacey, and I wouldn't trade Isaac for Cooper, who's just another offensive liability at guard.
What little I've seen of Isaac leads me to believe that he has a lot more potential than Lacey, who is an undersized, unathletic comboguard who can't shoot. That's a pretty bad combination.
Posted on 3/9/12 at 6:07 pm to WDE24
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LSU was/is a mediocre basketball team this season.
Agreed. However, this thread was directed at next season. A season where LSU returns 4/5 starters and one player who logged starter minutes off of that mediocre team that was respectable in SEC play. A season where other teams in the "west" lose marquee players, while LSU returns virtually their entire starting lineup intact. A season where other "west" teams haven't recruited well enough to be considered vastly improved than the previous season.
Arkansas, who returns Powell and everyone else, Ole Miss, who returns Holloway, Williams, Summers, Buckner, and LSU are the only teams who stand to get better relative to everyone else in the "west".
If that's the case, and no other team except those three will improve from this season, I like LSU's chances.
Posted on 3/9/12 at 6:31 pm to ralsu
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Yea out of the Schools Pelle is looking @ Trent is the only coach with a history getting Biggs to the NBA.
besides the lopez kids who has tj coached up to get them in the NBA?
Posted on 3/9/12 at 6:38 pm to LandOwners
I like your spirit but realistically we will not.
Posted on 3/9/12 at 6:40 pm to jr33
This thread is about us winning 22-25 games next year. To do that Stringer and Turner have to be a lot more consistent scorers and O'Bryant has to stop traveling. If those two or three things happen then I think it is possible.
Posted on 3/9/12 at 6:41 pm to jr33
two 5'9 players on the court at the same time will never work. You are dreaming if you think we can win that many games with the same team plus morgan. LSU played hard today, Kentucky toyed with LSU and played when it counted and won the game. This is another moral victory. Storm Warren will be missed badly, if he doesn't play today we lose by 20. As of today we have not signed a big to back up JOB or Hamilton, so as of today we have zero depth, at any position. Seriously.
Posted on 3/9/12 at 6:57 pm to jr33
You make some very good points. Warren will be missed, but if we can find a juco big good enough, and our guards can find a consistent scoring touch, meaning almost every game, along with O'Bryant coming into his own, cutting down on traveling for one thing, then this team could be very good next year. Number of games won is debateable for sure.
Posted on 3/9/12 at 10:11 pm to Starchild
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My prediction is that we barely make the tourney next year which is enough for TJ to keep his job another year...in which we're right back to fighting for an NIT berth.
Hate to say it, but I've been thinking the same thing. I hope like hell I'm wrong.
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