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re: “(We want to) let Dave (Aranda) run his total package. You know, he’s been limited in some
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:24 am to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:24 am to Rickdaddy4188
it's not the facts, it's the conclusions you draw from them:
Yes but the class was heavy on beef, which has been a problem in the past. Plus it has a lot of very underrated guys. After Tory Carter last season, who I thought was a total waste of a schollie at the time but turned out to be a beast, I don't question the marginal picks as much any more. So while recruits like the Jenkins's, D. Scott, T. Moore. Sheffer, may not be ranked very high, I think they are going to be big time players. Also when you add in Giles, Fehoko, and the transfer kicker, who are not included in the rankings, we had a very solid group of players coming in. It's a class I like much more than a lot of higher ranked ones we have had in the past.
I don't think that is what his head coaching career is based on at all. It also includes last season here, his interim stint here and at USC. None of which (which are his most recent) are "shite seasons". How other coaches that have worked for him view him and how the players view him. Also a lot of people that are more in the know than you or I think he was in a terrible situation at Ole Miss and was on the verge of doing good things there. There is a lot more to what his "head coaching career" is built on than just his won/loss record at Ole Miss.
I could go through all those things you listed at facts and come to different conclusions than you
that's not even a fact
you can pick your facts, you can draw conclusions from facts. You pick ones and come to conclusions, like a lot of others on here, to support your negativism.
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facts like ed orgeron has never in his life recruited a top 14 recruiting class for his own program?
Yes but the class was heavy on beef, which has been a problem in the past. Plus it has a lot of very underrated guys. After Tory Carter last season, who I thought was a total waste of a schollie at the time but turned out to be a beast, I don't question the marginal picks as much any more. So while recruits like the Jenkins's, D. Scott, T. Moore. Sheffer, may not be ranked very high, I think they are going to be big time players. Also when you add in Giles, Fehoko, and the transfer kicker, who are not included in the rankings, we had a very solid group of players coming in. It's a class I like much more than a lot of higher ranked ones we have had in the past.
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facts like ed orgeron's entire head coaching career is built upon shite seasons?
I don't think that is what his head coaching career is based on at all. It also includes last season here, his interim stint here and at USC. None of which (which are his most recent) are "shite seasons". How other coaches that have worked for him view him and how the players view him. Also a lot of people that are more in the know than you or I think he was in a terrible situation at Ole Miss and was on the verge of doing good things there. There is a lot more to what his "head coaching career" is built on than just his won/loss record at Ole Miss.
I could go through all those things you listed at facts and come to different conclusions than you
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facts like ed orgeron isnt qualifed to run Vandy's defense?
that's not even a fact
quote:It's not a fact that there is even a such thing as a signature win or what game it would be if you want to say there is. Auburn stomped half the teams in the 4 team playoffs and beat the eventual NC.
facts like ed orgeron's signature win is beating a 4 loss auburn team?
quote:while at the same time went 6-2 in the SEC, best since 2012 and what does the "just 5 games part mean?"
facts like in just 5 games ed orgeron had the worst loss in the 100 + year history of the lsu vs msu game?
you can pick your facts, you can draw conclusions from facts. You pick ones and come to conclusions, like a lot of others on here, to support your negativism.
This post was edited on 3/22/18 at 11:31 am
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:30 am to IM_4_LSU
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what doesn't accomplish anything are irrelevant people insulting someone trying to prove their point.
I didn't insult anyone. I posted an article with a link to said article.
You are the moron who insulted me for no reason other than not liking what was written in the article.
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This is just proving my original post of you being insufferable. If you don't understand the meaning I can explain it to you!
I don't need you to explain anything other than why you would call me that for posting an article that dealt with the subject at hand.
You could have just kept your big mouth shut and moved along.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:31 am to boxcar willie
quote:So was Georgia's class. I see this as an excuse but bama and other schools get high rated lineman every year.
Yes but the class was heavy on beef,
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:36 am to boxcar willie
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it's not the facts, it's the conclusions you draw from them
bull fricking shite.
ed orgern has never in his life proven he can run a defense. so he isnt qualified to run vandy's defense.
you have to actually do something before you're qualifed to do it.
the signature win if his head coaching career is beating a 4 loss auburn team. thats a fact.
interim tenures arent the same as running a program. he didnt choose the staff, didn't choose schemes, didnt have a hnad in getting the stars that were at lsu.
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Yes but the class was heavy on beef, which has been a problem in the past. Plus it has a lot of very underrated guy
bullshite.
we had 12 players ranked outside the top 20 at their position.bama had 3.
its a fricking fact that ed orgeron has never in life recruited a top 14 class for his own program.
its amazing watching you knight for a proven fricking failure after years of shitting on an accomplished lsu coach.
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could go through all those things you listed at facts and come to different conclusions than you
bullshite
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while at the same time went 6-2 in the SEC, best since 2012 and what does the "just 5 games part mean?"
6-2? 5 of those wins had at least 6 losses.
my god
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you can pick your facts, you can draw conclusions from facts. You pick ones and come to conclusions, like a lot of others on here, to support your negativism.
says the guy that said miles ran the program into the dirt.
This post was edited on 3/22/18 at 6:02 pm
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:37 am to justice
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So was Georgia's class. I see this as an excuse but bama and other schools get high rated lineman every year.
of course it is. its just another excuse they try to trott out since O was supposed to be this great recruiter.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:39 am to Tiger Ree
Hopefully we are able to get more pressure up front and force turnovers. The last 2 seasons we have been in the bottom half of CFB in turnovers.
We could certainly benefit from a short field and quick scoring opportunities. Conversely, we have been one of the better teams in regards to ball security. With a new starter at QB and a new set of starters at RB I doubt we can expect to be as good at protecting the ball.
We could certainly benefit from a short field and quick scoring opportunities. Conversely, we have been one of the better teams in regards to ball security. With a new starter at QB and a new set of starters at RB I doubt we can expect to be as good at protecting the ball.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:44 am to TigerLunatik
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I've been let down do many times as an LSU fan on potential to get super excited for this year when the head coach isn't a proven winner. I don't fault anyone that is excited of course. I just don't want to be disappointed again. Going in with no expecations is just easier. It helped me through the losses last year and I was still able to be as pumped as ever during the wins. To each his own I suppose.
yes I fully understand that and get it. I just can't help myself though. I just get super excited about the possible upside of this team. We may end up going 5-7 but I see 14-0 right now.
I just picture one of the QB's breaking out and being a QB the OC can have confidence in. Then I picture 3rd and 1, with the defense stacking the line waiting for us to plunge straight ahead and Ensmigner calling a play action pass to Moreau or Giles or Marshall that goes for 20 yards. Plays like that. Plays that go against our tendencies. Plays that catch defenses off guard like other teams with good OC's do.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:50 am to boxcar willie
can you explain why a 4 loss orgeron is acceptable but a 3 loss miles team with an infinitely more productive offense wasnt?
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:53 am to boxcar willie
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I just picture one of the QB's breaking out and being a QB the OC can have confidence in. Then I picture 3rd and 1, with the defense stacking the line waiting for us to plunge straight ahead and Ensmigner calling a play action pass to Moreau or Giles or Marshall that goes for 20 yards. Plays like that. Plays that go against our tendencies. Plays that catch defenses off guard like other teams with good OC's do.
Nothing wrong with that. This is a simple case of you not having Catastrophe Syndrome. A lot of people in this thread are at stage 4 and that is why this thread is so long.
Others in the thread are just miserable turds and want to convince others to be miserable like them. Even though there is absolutely nothing to be miserable about.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 12:09 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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bull fricking shite. ed orgern has never in his proven he can run a defense. so he isnt qualified to run vandy's defense. you have to actually do something before you're qualifed to do it.
that actually is not what a fact is. That is an opinion or conclusion. There is a difference.
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says the guy that said miles ran the program into the dirt.
I really think you are confusing me with someone else, or with the passing of time, simply forgotten the substance of the discussions we had during those times.
I never said or thought that "Miles ran the program into the ground". I was a big backer of Miles and my only disagreement with him was his philosophy of football on the offense side of the ball. I wish you could go back and read some of those threads. I don't really know if it is possible to go that far back or I would look and try to figure out what you are talking about.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 12:16 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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an you explain why a 4 loss orgeron is acceptable but a 3 loss miles team with an infinitely more productive offense wasnt?
sorry not taking the bait on that one right now. Maybe another time. About to sign off and that is going to be one long back and forth.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 12:40 pm to Tiger Ree
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You are the moron who insulted me for no reason other than not liking what was written in the article.
1st. Calling you insufferable isn't an insult.
2nd. Calling someone dumb, a dipshit, and now a moron is
3rd. I think you're hanging up on the fact that I quoted something and then posted, calling you insufferable literally had nothing to do with what was written in the article that you posted.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 1:32 pm to IM_4_LSU
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1st. Calling you insufferable isn't an insult.
You are a fricking idiot.
Do you need me to explain what insufferable means?
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3rd. I think you're hanging up on the fact that I quoted something and then posted, calling you insufferable literally had nothing to do with what was written in the article that you posted.
Again, you are a total fricking idiot. Look at my post history moron. Is it the Tyrann charity event you hate? The softball game being moved up? The Dork defense used by the basketball team?
IDIOT !!!
Quit while you are only WAY behind. It will only get worse.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 2:42 pm to Tiger Ree
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Quit while you are only WAY behind. It will only get worse.
Good lord. I had to look twice at who posted this gem. After reading it the first time, I would have bet money that something this egotistical was submitted by dukke v. Sounds like something he would have posted.
Ree posts just like dukke. Imagine that.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 2:42 pm to Tiger Ree
Sorry folks, Double post.
This post was edited on 3/22/18 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 3/22/18 at 2:44 pm to Tiger Ree
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You are a fricking idiot.
Do you need me to explain what insufferable means?
I know what insufferable means but I appreciate the effort. Saying you're extreme isn't an insult. You have been doing nothing but going to the extreme in your posts. That's insufferable. As in too extreme to bear.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 3:15 pm to IM_4_LSU
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going to the extreme in your posts
That is a lot of posters on tRant, but I think even Ree should get a laugh from this, because I know that he knows it's true.
Eta: Just to be clear, this is NOT shot at anyone.
This post was edited on 3/22/18 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:56 pm to boxcar willie
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sorry not taking the bait on that one right now. Maybe another time. About to sign off and that is going to be one long back and forth.
the bait? its a justifiable question.
you shite all over vastly more productive offenses under miles amd bashed 3 loss seasons under miles against a far harder sos.
just admit youre ok with lsu losing and looking like shite against inferior teams as lomg as miles isnt the coach.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:59 pm to boxcar willie
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really think you are confusing me with someone else, or with the passing of time, simply forgotten the substa
im the thread that was titled delete you agreed with a poster that said miles ran the program into the dirt...
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Miles ran the program into the dirt.
your reply....
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yep
Posted on 3/22/18 at 6:01 pm to boxcar willie
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That is an opinion or conclusion. There is a difference.
if ed orgeron is qualified to run Vandy's defense, so am i.
my 6 year old niece has run as many defenses S ed has.
you have to prove you can do something before you're qualifed to do it.
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