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Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:25 pm to InsightfulTiger
From another thread...
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The problem is that none of our choices at QB are completely satisfying. JJ avoids big blunders, but the offense doesn't move particularly well with him at the helm. I think if he's our sole QB for the entire year we are a 9-3 team with a slim chance at being 10-2 or 8-4. JL on the other hand moves the team well, but there is a lot of risk. With him we could be anywhere between 11-1 and 7-5. So the question becomes, what combination of these two gives us the best chance of going 12-0 or 11-1? Looking at this objectively, the best way is to take JJ as the starter to get his 9 wins, and use JL in relief to try to change the 3 losses into wins. Looking back at last year, this is exactly what Les did. I think last year most of us thought Les was a little conservative and would have used JL a little more frequently, but that's just a matter of nerve. We all want a more comfortable lead while Les has more patience. So, it's pretty obvious to me that Les knows what he's doing and that we'll see the same thing this year. On the plus side, with another year under their belt, JJ and JL should both be better. At this point Les doesn't know what he has in Mett, but when he finds out I have no doubt that he will use him appropriately. Have some trust in Les!
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:30 pm to RummelTiger
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And those people would be retarded.
11-2 with a Sugar Bowl victory is great.
Only the true mouth-breathers would scoff at that kind of season.
Good year? You bet. DId that team meet or exceed expectations? No. It was arguably the most talented LSU team ever.
I think many people expect to win the SEC this year and will be somewhat disappointed if it doesn't happen.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:31 pm to InsightfulTiger
InsightfulTiger IF you were referring to my post you need to reread it.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:35 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Good year? You bet. DId that team meet or exceed expectations? No. It was arguably the most talented LSU team ever.
I think many people expect to win the SEC this year and will be somewhat disappointed if it doesn't happen.
Being disappointed in the results of the year and being a disappointing team are two different things.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:36 pm to RummelTiger
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Being disappointed in the results of the year and being a disappointing team are two different things.
Eh, not sure how you separate the two. I suppose it would depend on how things went down. Some people do have too high expectations though.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:40 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Eh, not sure how you separate the two. I suppose it would depend on how things went down. Some people do have too high expectations though.
2006 - Disappointed in the results (for some), but the team played great.
1998 - Disappointed in the team, and the results.
This post was edited on 8/16/11 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:42 pm to RummelTiger
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Good year? You bet. DId that team meet or exceed expectations? No. It was arguably the most talented LSU team ever.
To "expect" a team to win the national title is insane. Think of all the things that have to break right even for a great team to win the NC. Even the '01 Hurricanes didn't win the title.
BCS bowl means an incredible year. New Year's Day bowl is what I think should be "expected."
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:43 pm to BengalBen
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Your point?
That Matt Flynn's wizarding powers enabled him to ensure that LSU's 10-2 record with 2 SEC losses was good enough to make it to the SECCG in Atlanta in 2007, whereas Russell (not a wizard) was unable to ensure that his 2006's 10-2 record and 2 SEC losses were good enough.
Oh...and that unlike Russell, Flynn was able to use his wizarding powers to help PITT defeat then #2 WVU in the Big East Championship Game allowing then #7 LSU to vault them and play tOSU in the BCSNG.
Or it could simply be the similarity between both sets of QB's...
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:43 pm to Bayou
I love these threads. Makes me thinking I'm up at a hunting camp talking with "those" guys.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:45 pm to RummelTiger
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2006 - Disappointed in the results (for some), but the team played great.
I think the Auburn game was the dividing line.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:46 pm to DanglingFury
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To "expect" a team to win the national title is insane. Think of all the things that have to break right even for a great team to win the NC. Even the '01 Hurricanes didn't win the title.
I think LSU fans believe this team has the ability to play in Atlanta the first week of December. It's certainly talented enough.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:47 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I think many people expect to win the SEC this year and will be somewhat disappointed if it doesn't happen.
Any time a fan EXPECTS to win the SEC, they deserve to be disappointed. A fan of LSU ought to expect to be in the hunt for the SECW...which then puts LSU in line for the SEC and potentially bigger and better things...but to EXPECT an SEC title is asking to be let down.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I think LSU fans believe this team has the ability to play in Atlanta the first week of December. It's certainly talented enough.
Absolutely.
But, we all of us, puff our chests out about how awesome the SEC is. Gonna hard as hell to get there. That's why I don't expect it, but it's fricking awesome when it happens.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:51 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Any time a fan EXPECTS to win the SEC, they deserve to be disappointed. A fan of LSU ought to expect to be in the hunt for the SECW...which then puts LSU in line for the SEC and potentially bigger and better things...but to EXPECT an SEC title is asking to be let down.
Word.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:52 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Any time a fan EXPECTS to win the SEC, they deserve to be disappointed. A fan of LSU ought to expect to be in the hunt for the SECW...which then puts LSU in line for the SEC and potentially bigger and better things...but to EXPECT an SEC title is asking to be let down.
Do you disagree that there is an expectation that this team is talented enough to play in Atlanta, and many would be disappointed when/if it doesn't happen?
I am not making excuses for the expectations, just saying they are out there.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I think LSU fans believe this team has the ability to play in Atlanta the first week of December. It's certainly talented enough.
I agree.
But I'm not expecting them to do anything but compete for the SECW, if they can do that year in/year out, then we will have a great time.
Some years they'll have better luck, and some years they won't.
This post was edited on 8/16/11 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:56 pm to RummelTiger
But I'm not expecting them to do anything but compete for the SECW, if they can do that year in/year out, then we will have a great time.
Some years they'll have better luck, and some years they won't.
Where is all of this rationality coming from on the Rant?
Some years they'll have better luck, and some years they won't.
Where is all of this rationality coming from on the Rant?
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:59 pm to DanglingFury
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Where is all of this rationality coming from on the Rant?
There's a few of us on here...
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:59 pm to RummelTiger
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But I'm not expecting them to do anything but compete for the SECW, if they can do that year in/year out, then we will have a great time.
Some years they'll have better luck, and some years they won't.
I think a BCS bowl game would be sufficient for this team, but it certainly has the potential to play in Atlanta. Different people will judge a team on what they feel is the potential, and then at the end of the season, what is the reality and the difference between the two. Just human nature.
I think we all agree LSU will need an improved QB position to get to and past Atlanta though.
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