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We are not realistic as a fanbase.

Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:06 am
Posted by Bengal26
Member since Oct 2014
1843 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:06 am
Calling for BK to be fired AT THIS POINT is pretty wild to me. I definitely don't agree with every decision he's made and totally agree he has to be better in areas. BUT he came here with 39 scholarship players on the roster and hit the portal hard just to be competitive. He was lucky enough to hit on a lot of those guys and magically won the west in year 1. Even with hitting the portal hard, he was only able to get that roster up to about 68 scholarship players. 2 years later with players transferring, or moving on, you have to hit on all of the players you get in the portal and recruiting. He's finally at 85 scholarship players and likely many of those kids wouldn't normally be playing for LSU if we weren't still trying to field a full roster. We can talk about Miles and even O winning big but both of those guys took over established rosters. I've was hopeful that we'd get lucky and be able to turn it around with the portal in 2-3 years but that was always a fantasy. Personally, i'll give him 5 years in the program before I truly judge him as our coach. I also think we will learn a lot after this offseason with how he attacks the portal. There's a chance that he shites the bed and can't get it rolling, sure, but to be calling for him to be fired at this point with what he started with is insane to me.
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
6808 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:08 am to
Nobody really thinks he’s getting fired but that’s what happens when you’re the top boss and things aren’t going well.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
21140 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:10 am to
It’s not the roster most of us are criticizing

It’s the lack of toughness and attitude mixed with bad game management and worse motivation that we see. Also the lack of adjustment is obvious, especially when BK blames execution of the players for every loss.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13081 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:15 am to
How long are we gonna blame Orgeron? This is year 3 with 85 players specifically chosen by Kelly. He's 7-4 with them. Ed Orgeron isn't walking through that door!
Talk about unrealistic. Blaming Orgeron for Kelly's failures 3 years later with his personally chosen players. He brought Major Burns and Jardin Gilbert. He, knowing we needed CBs, brought in multiple kids that never see the field to fill that need. He hired Matt House, a hs coach to coach the secondary, Brad Davis, a qb coach that isn't a good oc and fired then rehired Corey Raymond who's secondary isn't any better than said HS coach's. Yeah it's Orgerons fault.
Posted by Ole Boy
Member since Dec 2018
855 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:16 am to
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BUT he came here with 39 scholarship players


Best year BK had was his first year and he's got continually worse so you can quit with the 39 scholarship players bullshite.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
2245 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:16 am to
Not exactly. Some truth in your comments, but the players are a big part of it. Plenty of roster criticism on here. Our talent level is down. We were DBU, but not currently.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
51410 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:17 am to
Your thread title is 100% correct.

And BK deserves to be fired ASAP.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
13164 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:18 am to
Where do we see signs that he is moving the program towards a championship?
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
45987 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:18 am to
This is the weakest the sec has been in decades and he is still terrible.
Posted by Bengal26
Member since Oct 2014
1843 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:19 am to
That's just you seeing what you want to see in press conferences. When coaches win, you don't hear BS like this. He takes blame for every loss but we don't want him to be honest and keep kids accountable also? People get mad that he chews a player's arse but you don't think they coach a player all week on something and get pissed off when that player goes in the game and makes the same mistakes they just preached all week? When do you put some blame on players?
Posted by Draco Malfoy
Member since Mar 2024
1685 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:25 am to
Realistic fans know 7-4 isn’t acceptable. With a competent OC we’d be 8-3 to 10-1
Posted by p226
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2016
1557 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:26 am to
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39 scholarship players


I quit reading right here.
Posted by Bengal26
Member since Oct 2014
1843 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:26 am to
You're assuming he can come in and hand pick every player he wants on his team and stack a roster. Our fanbase is wild... The whole point is that starting off with 39 scholarship players will take more than 3 years to actually have a roster with the depth & experience needed to compete. He hired MH and that was definitely a setback. I'm not acting like the dude is Saban or didn't make any mistakes since he's been here because we all know he did. A lot gets blurred out with talent that is clearly lacking right now.
Posted by Bengal26
Member since Oct 2014
1843 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:27 am to
You're assuming he can come in and hand pick every player he wants on his team and stack a roster. Our fanbase is wild... The whole point is that starting off with 39 scholarship players will take more than 3 years to actually have a roster with the depth & experience needed to compete. He hired MH and that was definitely a setback. I'm not acting like the dude is Saban or didn't make any mistakes since he's been here because we all know he did. A lot gets blurred out with talent that is clearly lacking right now.
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
3661 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:27 am to
Fire Brian Kelly if you want a better chance to compete for Championships. He has never been nor ever will be a good coach to have to prepare for big games against ranked opponents.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
86428 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:29 am to
3 years is plenty of time to regroup the roster.

Please explain why we look like dog crap in YR3, not to mention turnover in the OC/DC? Isn’t the point to improve year over year?
Posted by Pancakes
Member since Dec 2016
183 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:29 am to
Yep. The play calling has been terrible. We don’t run the ball enough.
Posted by R11
Member since Aug 2017
4294 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:31 am to
The dumbest of the dumb post here and are the loudest.
Posted by Bengal26
Member since Oct 2014
1843 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:35 am to
quote:

Best year BK had was his first year and he's got continually worse so you can quit with the 39 scholarship players bullshite.


That's such a lazy take. There's no difference than teams like FSU & Ole miss loading a roster with portal guys. We got lucky and he hit on most of the portal guys in year 1. As years pass, its clear that model of coaching is uncontainable.
Posted by Bengal26
Member since Oct 2014
1843 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:38 am to
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Realistic fans know 7-4 isn’t acceptable


In year 5 after what he's inherited, I totally agree.
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