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re: WCWS preview and predictions LSU softball
Posted on 5/30/17 at 5:03 pm to Tigerbait357
Posted on 5/30/17 at 5:03 pm to Tigerbait357
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It would be nice to see OU go 0-2
yep
and FLORIDA as well just to help LSU although I have great respect for tim walton and what he has done there.
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 5:07 pm to Fat Bastard
This has been an interesting year for sure. Not one team stands out, it's literally completely wide open to me. You have a lot of talented teams with a lot of weapons.
Itll be exciting.
So I guess we will be rooting for A&M?
Itll be exciting.
So I guess we will be rooting for A&M?
Posted on 5/30/17 at 5:08 pm to Bhs83
As for predictions, the only one I'd bet money on is Florida to beat Texas A&M. Harrington lost her father during the regionals, and I feel for her. I just dont think they will hit Gourley or Barnhill.
Washington should be able to hit Oregon's Kleist. I think Oregon won 2 of 3 this year in their series, but Washington is on a roll. I pick them to win, but aint so sure it will turn out that way.
I really, really want Baylor to send Oklahoma to the Losers' bracket. I know Baylor can beat Oklahoma, but Oklahoma is a lucky team. Maybe thats another reason i cant stand Oklahoma, Gasso, and the fact they are lucky.
LSU and UCLA.... I know LSU can beat them, but UCLA, on a good day, can beat LSU too. I'd start Waljasper. Neither of Ole Miss' pitchers throw 68-70 mph, and they both gave UCLA a headache.
Going to have to score a handful of runs to beat UCLA. McDuffie is out, so Garcia will most likely start. LSU should be able to hit her this late in the season.
Going to be an interesting tournament, cant wait for it to start.
Washington should be able to hit Oregon's Kleist. I think Oregon won 2 of 3 this year in their series, but Washington is on a roll. I pick them to win, but aint so sure it will turn out that way.
I really, really want Baylor to send Oklahoma to the Losers' bracket. I know Baylor can beat Oklahoma, but Oklahoma is a lucky team. Maybe thats another reason i cant stand Oklahoma, Gasso, and the fact they are lucky.
LSU and UCLA.... I know LSU can beat them, but UCLA, on a good day, can beat LSU too. I'd start Waljasper. Neither of Ole Miss' pitchers throw 68-70 mph, and they both gave UCLA a headache.
Going to have to score a handful of runs to beat UCLA. McDuffie is out, so Garcia will most likely start. LSU should be able to hit her this late in the season.
Going to be an interesting tournament, cant wait for it to start.
Posted on 5/30/17 at 8:25 pm to Bhs83
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LSU and UCLA.... I know LSU can beat them, but UCLA, on a good day, can beat LSU too. I'd start Waljasper. Neither of Ole Miss' pitchers throw 68-70 mph, and they both gave UCLA a headache.
I thought we were better than them in California and we were really not playing well then. Andrews was not a starter then and she has turned out to be one of our best at getting on base and scoring. Griggs is a much tougher out now and I think we are playing better now than we have all year. I like our draw in the first round.
Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:55 pm to Bhs83
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I'd start Waljasper. Neither of Ole Miss' pitchers throw 68-70 mph, and they both gave UCLA a headache.
alie throws mid 60's. most div1 throw low to mod 60's. not a whole lot can thrown high 60's. and only a handful including NPF picthers can throw 70+
Posted on 5/30/17 at 10:07 pm to Fat Bastard
I just updated the recruiting thread.
18handicap, have you seen Hayden Brown play in person? She is a monster already and only a true freshman.
16 home runs in a freshmen outing is unbelievable.
I haven't heard about Georgia Clark in a while but I know she started the season off hot.
18handicap, have you seen Hayden Brown play in person? She is a monster already and only a true freshman.
16 home runs in a freshmen outing is unbelievable.
I haven't heard about Georgia Clark in a while but I know she started the season off hot.
Posted on 5/30/17 at 10:07 pm to schwartzy
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because this is probably her best chance for a while
Just curious why you think this. I love watching women's softball but I admit I have been following as closely as I would have liked due to me being busy with work. But to me women's softball is all about who has the most dominant pitcher and from the way I see it we have two of the best that are only juniors and returning next year. I know we lose some bats but those are easier to replace than a game tested talented pitcher.
Posted on 5/30/17 at 10:13 pm to Mulerider
You hit the nail on the head about SJay and I love that about her!
Posted on 5/31/17 at 12:07 am to Relham10
Relham10,
Yes. Next year we got our two pitchers back but we lose our two best hitters. There is not really much of a chance that next years team will be better than this year. Landry and Jaquish are gone after this.
Lets hope Howard gets the hitting fixed for Springfiield and the others who are struggling.
Yes. Next year we got our two pitchers back but we lose our two best hitters. There is not really much of a chance that next years team will be better than this year. Landry and Jaquish are gone after this.
Lets hope Howard gets the hitting fixed for Springfiield and the others who are struggling.
This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 12:08 am
Posted on 5/31/17 at 12:34 am to 18handicap
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Leave me out of this debate. ETA.. I have nothing to discuss yay or nay... just want to ride this train to the finish line... having a lot of fun so far!!
You and me both. I love our Lady Tigers. So far, so good. Wow. Aren't they something? Answer - yes, of course. They scared the heck out of me the last 2 innings of their 6-4 final game win. What a game!!!
Sorry I slighted you in previous thread - seems you are a super qualified women's softball aficionado. We just disagree on the % of inclusion of slappers (vs. % of "hitters") in a winning lineup on a college level to Pro Softball level (which includes our LSU softball team). See my following post.
Still, coach (I think you are a coach), thanks for apparently dealing with all these young women softball players and preparing them for the next level.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 4:14 am to Fat Bastard
If Hoover had the change up that Walljasper has she would be unstoppable. depends on the opponent if we pitch power with Hoover or change of speeds with Walljasper, we just need to jump on a team like we did to FSU in game 3 Torina will make the right call she got us this far
Posted on 5/31/17 at 6:27 am to Bhs83
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On base percentage may mean a good bit, but it takes two slapper hits to get a runner from second base to home plate, probably 60 percent of the time.
Look at the better teams, they are not so much small-ball. They may mix some small-ball into the stew, but they are mostly wide open swing away teams. Watching Baylor play Utah the other night, all those bombs, doubles, triples... I hate to say it but we dont see as much of that at LSU. A slapper at the front and back is fine, but you have to have hitters who move runners two bases on a hit.
I couldn't have said it better myself...
Posted on 5/31/17 at 8:15 am to TaserTiger
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On base percentage may mean a good bit,
OBP means everything. There is nothing more important for any offensive player than the ability of that player to get on base.
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but it takes two slapper hits to get a runner from second base to home plate
This is lumping to much information together. You see many types of slappers. Landry is a power slapper and even Andrews, who is more touch and go, drove in our only run in the 1-0 victory at FSU.
Most slappers also have the ability to run. You take a player like Landry, Andrews or Dawson and add the steals and those hits turn into doubles. It is not a slappers job to drive in runs. It is a slappers job to get on base, move up and score on hits or plays others cannot score on.
For example, you say it takes two slapper hits to score from second. Well, it may take two hits to score Springfield or Doyle from second and only one hit to score Landry, Andrews or Dawson. Speed is invaluable and cannot be replaced by any other ability.
Someone mentioned the other day that Dawson hadn't set the world on fire and she was probably only a .400 hitter. Think about that for a minute. How good is a team with a .400 hitter and 35 steals that scores on anything hit in the outfield and many balls that don't leave the infield? It cannot be replaced, it cannot be taught.
Point is, you can't lump slappers together into one group anymore than you can non slappers. Landry had a slew of extra base hits. Dawson had more extra base hits pre-college than any player that has ever played the game. 49 triples!
Good slappers that can run are a key component to building a high pressure team that is difficult to defend. I'll take them on my team any day of the week. They will perform better against your power pitchers than hitters in many instances.
Good debate, good info, Geaux Tigers!
Posted on 5/31/17 at 8:17 am to TaserTiger
Taser,
Thanks for the nice words. We don't have to agree at all, but a good discussion is always healthy for the improvement of our sport. I've always liked a good mix in my line up (usually 3 slappers at 1,2,9 and 6 hitters).
Yes, I coach high school softball. Was a head coach for 24 years until 2012 when I moved to administration. Retired 2 years ago to take care of my mother. I came out of retirement to just coach this year and loved being an assistant.
357,
Yes, her high school coach is one of my best friends. He said that coming in that she has the most talent than anyone he's ever coached. That says a lot for a coach who has multiple state championships (albeit on smaller school level).
Thanks for the nice words. We don't have to agree at all, but a good discussion is always healthy for the improvement of our sport. I've always liked a good mix in my line up (usually 3 slappers at 1,2,9 and 6 hitters).
Yes, I coach high school softball. Was a head coach for 24 years until 2012 when I moved to administration. Retired 2 years ago to take care of my mother. I came out of retirement to just coach this year and loved being an assistant.
357,
Yes, her high school coach is one of my best friends. He said that coming in that she has the most talent than anyone he's ever coached. That says a lot for a coach who has multiple state championships (albeit on smaller school level).
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:15 am to Tripp67
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If Hoover had the change up that Walljasper has she would be unstoppable. depends on the opponent if we pitch power with Hoover or change of speeds with Walljasper, we just need to jump on a team like we did to FSU in game 3 Torina will make the right call she got us this far
alie is excellent at keeping it low and on the corners just like i like it and as you said the changing of speeds. If a pitcher can throw 3 different speeds they will be deadly (e.g. knuckle, circle or horseshoe change, offspeed drop, screw, curve, hard drop, rise, screw. There is no offspeed rise. You throw that baby full speed always. I always teach my pitchers two different changeups once they are comfortable with a fastball due to changes of speed before we get to breaking balls.
ETA: i teach backflip change also but it is the hardest to learn. I love the knuckle change because it drops also. double whammy.
This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 9:38 am
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:19 am to Fat Bastard
The beauty of this LSU pitching staff is how different everyone is, all are very different.
hoover straight up over powers most players, when she hits her spots she is extremely lethal and difficult to hit. Sometimes she is a little erratic but when she is on is pretty difficult to hit. She has a nasty rise ball too that jumps really well
Walljasper does an incredible job. No she won't blow the ball past you but her change in speeds and the spin she generates makes her extremely difficult to read. You may make contact but its hard to square up on her most the time.
Smith has a really nice drop ball and a nice curveball. She isn't the type to strikeout a lot but is more a pitch to contact but I think she will be just nasty for us the next two years. I think ever since she was nailed in the arm she's been a little off with her location but I love the pitches in her arsenal. Would not surprise me at all seeing her pitch in the world series.
Maribeth has some really nasty pitches with amazing movement on her balls. When she settled down at USCe she looked dominant out there. She has a lot of tools to be extremely success. She just needs to clean up some of her pitch locations
hoover straight up over powers most players, when she hits her spots she is extremely lethal and difficult to hit. Sometimes she is a little erratic but when she is on is pretty difficult to hit. She has a nasty rise ball too that jumps really well
Walljasper does an incredible job. No she won't blow the ball past you but her change in speeds and the spin she generates makes her extremely difficult to read. You may make contact but its hard to square up on her most the time.
Smith has a really nice drop ball and a nice curveball. She isn't the type to strikeout a lot but is more a pitch to contact but I think she will be just nasty for us the next two years. I think ever since she was nailed in the arm she's been a little off with her location but I love the pitches in her arsenal. Would not surprise me at all seeing her pitch in the world series.
Maribeth has some really nasty pitches with amazing movement on her balls. When she settled down at USCe she looked dominant out there. She has a lot of tools to be extremely success. She just needs to clean up some of her pitch locations
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:39 am to Tigerbait357
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When she settled down at USCe she looked dominant out there.
She really did. It was pretty surprising, to me, considering how she got knocked around in her early season starts. And even in those games, she'd come out hot making batters look foolish then loses "it" somehow and start getting rocked.
This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:48 am to Sasquatch Smash
everytime the camera pans to her in dugout she has a lost and disinterested look on her face. maybe that is just how she is. 
Posted on 5/31/17 at 12:15 pm to Sasquatch Smash
Its all mental with Maribeth. She is extremely talented and will do some good stuff when she settles down.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 12:35 pm to Tigerbait357
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we add Wickersham who is considered one of the top pitchers in the country.
Bahahahahahahahaha. This is hilarious.
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