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re: Was Jordan Jefferson highly recruited by other schools?

Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:01 pm to
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33962 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:01 pm to
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I never got the Jefferson hate.
might have something to do with the Bogie's incident
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56355 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:11 pm to
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Jordan Jefferson was terrible. And seemed to get progressively worse.
You people just make shite up. He was a serviceable, yet limited QB plenty capable of winning games in the SEC West.

Now Jennings, Hatch, Harris....yes, terrible, but JJ was a fair QB. Miles did him or Lee any favors with the predictable play calling and his general offensive philosphy and game management style.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20425 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:15 pm to
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I disagree. If it was a regular season game I get it. Its the NCG and your getting nothing and Jefferson is playing awful and you have not crossed the 50. If you go back and watch the 9-6 game the reason Jefferson had success was the option. Les being Les figured he would try that again in the NCG and Alabama was very prepared to shut that down which they did.

So maybe Jarrett lee does throw a pick six if hes put in but I would be ok with that knowing you tried everything you could do to win.
It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't choice.

On the one hand, I get the "gotta try something" attitude.

On the other, like I posted above- we weren't moving yet, but our defense was hanging in there.

We started pushing Bama around late the first game, after banging futilely against them all game long. Go back and watch that- if we had to score a TD in OT, it would have happened.
Conversely, if you watch the first game when Lee is in, that game is headed towards a blowout. Lee tossing the ball blindly to avoid getting crushed. Would have been a pick 6 eventually.

So in the NCG, Les was faced with this decision:
a) keep banging away, hope to eventually wear them down, score late.
b) stick the guy with the LSU (SEC?) record for throwing pick-6's into the game, against a defense that had already shown they'd eat him alive once.

There was never really a point in the game where you'd hit the panic button, until it was too late to matter.

People scream about Miles never changing strategy, but conveniently ignore the fact that he had the only winning strategy against that Bama team. He just couldn't pull it off twice.
We were the only team that could play with them, and the first time around we beat them. Sometimes, you just have to acknowledge- the other guy is damn good too, and might be better.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50333 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:16 pm to
I met JJ during his recruiting process.

He was a 4 Star QB and I think somewhere in the top 15-20 for his style of QB.

He came from a great family of proud LSU alum and backers. Please quit shitting on a kid that graduated a decade ago.
Posted by bdavids09
Member since Jun 2017
631 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:35 pm to
well that's fair. We may just disagree and that's fine. That was such an interesting season how you were either a Jefferson guy or a Lee guy and those of us who thought Lee was the right choice have the luxury of looking back but there is no way of knowing what would of happen and it probably would not have made a difference if he played in the NCG.
But I probably will go back and watch as I love to watch old games this time of year as I'm just dying for football. The only game I wont watch is the NCG on 1/9/12
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56355 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:44 pm to
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Please quit shitting on a kid that graduated a decade ago.


Ive defended JJ about 1034 times on this board.
Posted by TheMonTSteR
Member since Aug 2007
308 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:54 pm to
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in Jordan Jefferson's case, you don't get a second chance to make a good last impression either.


Ain't that the truth.

It may not be altogether fair, but when I think of Jefferson I can't help but remember this:



That, and how he tried to blame Spencer Ware for it afterwards.
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 6:04 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56355 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 3:17 pm to
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That, and how he tried to blame Spencer Ware for it.


It may have been, but JJ definitely made the wrong read. He couldve rambled a while.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18670 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 3:45 pm to
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I never got the Jefferson hate. Almost every quarterback under Miles was underdeveloped and utilized poorly.


JaMarcus, Flynn, and Perilloux were all good QB's. That four near stretch from 08-10 were filled with struggles because Perilloux getting booted forced a lot of mistakes by guys not ready to see the field. We then had Mett, who was great. Of course then we had problems with Jennings and Harris, but they seem almost more hampered by the play calling and 2 QB system that emerged.

Anyway, Jefferson had pretty average stats. Where I think most people got a sour taste from him was his attitude when he played poorly. In particular, the 2010 season where he really struggled and Les started putting Lee in for clear passing situations. Lee saved us versus Florida that year.
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
5352 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 3:50 pm to
He also beat West Monroe which at the time was a High School Dynasty (not so anymore), gave him a little umph on his resume.
Posted by DrD
Houston
Member since Jan 2010
2609 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 5:10 pm to
It took 30 min. For the proverbial “Let it go Luke - it’s been 10’years” response. I will say JJ would have been a pretty good defensive player or skilled player on offense - besides QB at the college level. All the Jefferson’s were bad arse athletes at LSU. Pretty cool. Geaux Tigers!
Posted by sertorius
Third Plebeian
Member since Oct 2008
1510 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 5:19 pm to
I'm pretty sure he was a top 10 dual threat coming out of high school.

Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20425 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 5:48 pm to
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well that's fair. We may just disagree and that's fine.
And for what it's worth, we probably just disagree on what to try/when.
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That was such an interesting season how you were either a Jefferson guy or a Lee guy and those of us who thought Lee was the right choice have the luxury of looking back but there is no way of knowing what would of happen and it probably would not have made a difference if he played in the NCG.
I liked Lee and what he brought to that offense, although I think he's a bit 'overrated' as a passer, in people's memories. He wasn't that accurate- I remember watching the Oregon game, and he hit someone (TE maybe) going downfield. The receiver had a step, but had to slow down, and he still kinda turned and caught it on his hip. Had it have been in stride and leading him, would have been a huge play.

It's insane how far LSU and Alabama were separated from everyone else. Oregon was a top 5 team, we bitch-slapped them. No doubt we'd have done the same to Okie State. There was only one team capable of playing with us, and we had to play them twice.
Posted by msptigers
LSU Alumnus
Member since Jun 2021
755 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 5:52 pm to
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Almost every quarterback under Miles was underdeveloped and utilized poorly.


Nah, they were poorly evaluated. You can't turn chicken shite into chicken salad. You saw that with Shae Patterson and Feleipe Franks. You saw that on misses like Dak Preskott who camped a couple of years.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27935 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 6:42 pm to
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And seemed to get progressively worse.

Thats the point so many want to gloss over. Lee was TERRIBLE being forced into starting his FR year, but by that '11 year, he was at the top of the SEC and undefeated

Jefferson looked good against the teams at the end of '08 when Lee got injured, but couldnt cross the 50 in his last two games in '11
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
12380 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 6:44 pm to
I remember being at a sports banquet in New Orleans around this time. I was having a conversation with a couple of members of the media along with a prominent HS head coach. The media members were talking about how surprised they were that Tulane did not want that Destrehan QB because he had a hitch in his throwing motion. The coach laughed and said " I saw him "hitch" the ball 70 yards in the air last Friday night".

He may not have been a 5* recruit but a lot of the experts who closely follow HS football around here were very high on him.
Posted by B00M
Member since Aug 2020
511 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 6:54 pm to
Agree, We seemed to be the place to go where quarterbacks when to die.

Position was never developed under Miles because of his ground and pound style offense.

Not the case anymore, thank god.
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
5745 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:07 pm to
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I remember we had been recruiting Terrelle Pryor but the staff backed off because they thought Jefferson was just as good

He very well could’ve been if he would’ve played for Joe Brady. It sounds ridiculous as awful as he was under Miles, but Miles and his OC’s were truly some of the shittiest offensive coaches in the history of college football. It’s very hard to say just how good guys like Jefferson, Mett, Lee, and even Harris could’ve been under an elite OC.
Posted by Tuckerman1
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2021
29 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:53 pm to
I saw him play in the playoffs his senior year against St Paul’s in Covington. JJ was a man amounts boys. He was outstanding.
It seams he never developed beyond his physical capabilities. In the SEC, there are a lot of big, strong, fast players. JJ never learned the mental aspects of playing QB in the SEC.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10092 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:03 pm to
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couldnt cross the 50 in his last two games in '11
Let's just make stuff up to knight for the QB who threw 1TD vs 7INTs vs Bama.
1-9-`12 Jefferson actually completed 64% of pass plays called, and had LSU near Bama 30yd line prior to OL called for penalty.
Both QBs put up with a lot of adversity at LSU and were both great Tigers.
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