re: Was 2016 the most dissapointing LSU team in recent memory?

I disagree. I think we definitely could best auburn again if we played them right now. Dude, we spotted them a 20 point lead and came back to beat them. That was before our offense really started clicking as well. Auburn didn't impress me at all in the sec champ game against georgia. Yes, i believe we beat florida again as well. We have steadily improved throughout the season and I don't get your point. Sure, auburn has gotten better, but so have we. I think we beat every team on our schedule besides bama if we played them again right now. I think the bama game would be closer too. Idk why you think otherwise? We are the 3rd best team in the conference right now behind georgia and bama in my opinion. I think we are a better team than auburn right now too. I wouldn't want to play LSU right now if I were ND, I think we win by 10 points.

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Ya, and had 17 kids in nfl training camp from last years team, on top of your 5 best players having lingering injuries all year. 2016 was a clean year with injuries & loaded with veteran talent. 2017 was always going to be a rebuild year because of that

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That's not my point. 2017 definitely didn't have the 2016 talent. They still had plenty of talent that they never should've lost to Troy. I don't think it's fair to definitively say 2016 would've lost 1 or less games, when 2017 with O lost games like Troy in which they had no business losing.

O might have had that team with one loss to Bama with a shot at the playoffs

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O might have had that team with one loss to Bama with a shot at the playoffs

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lol

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That’s a 1 loss or undefeated team with coach O having a full season

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Um, O lost TWO games in half the season.

The two losses were to the only two ranked teams we played and AT HOME by the way and you think we are 1 loss or undefeated when you add in two more ranked teams ON THE ROAD?

Your math is interesting to say the least.


This is what makes so many of you so hard to take seriously. You are either blind O homers from the bayou or just blind Miles bashers that hate him so much that you accept the same or worse results because as long as Miles is gone you are happy.


And yes, 2016 was the disappointing team in recent memory. Both before and after the coaching change.

I posted before the season that if LSU didn't make it to Atlanta it was time for a coaching change. Both coaches failed to do what they needed to do to win the West even though both controlled their own destinies and both should have been sent packing when they failed to see that team to their full potential.

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I like what I've seen from orgeron and this staff so far, besides the troy game

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You liked what you saw in the Mississippi State game?

With all due respect, LSU beat itself against florida. We were definitely the better team and had that game won, despite us playing a horrible game. Regardless of all of the shitty play we had that game, we had the he ball first and goal with 4 plays to punch it in from very close. Guice didn't run the play that was called and it cost us the game. That wasn't orgerons fault man. If guice runs the play correctly, we win the game. Not making excuses at all bc we lost the game and orgeron was the head coach, but to use that game as some sort of example to somehow show orgeron is an inadequate coach and that miles is better just simply isnt true. You can't blame orgeron for the poor execution and turnovers that occurred in that game. Our piss-poor execution cost us that game, and while orgeron is to blame for some of it I guess, some of the blame has to be placed solely on the players as well at o's point. That was a team loss that should have never happened, as we were clearly the better team. Hey, that's why you play the games though, sometimes the better team loses bc it has a bad day, and thats what happened in the UF game last year. As for the bama loss, we had them where we wanted them and simply didn't have the threat passing the ball that we needed to score against bama. It was the same thing that hindered us against bama previously under miles. Miles flat-out couldnt get a legitimate qb at LSU, which is insane, and then he couldn't coach them up once they got on campus. Poor qb evaluation in recruiting, and the lack of qb development with the qbs we had on our roster, cost us alot of games under miles. There are so many games that we lost under miles that would have been a W had we had a qb with a passing decent passing threat. It was ridiculous that Les couldn't get a good qb to come to fricking LSU, totally inexcusable and frustrating. There's no excuse for that, and we are still feeling the effects from miles to this day, with etling being our starter this season. Not saying that etling is chopped liver, because he's better than we had the last several year under miles, but he isn't the caliber of qb that LSU should have under center, and yiu csnt put the game on his shoulders and expect him to win games with his arm when need be. It's just not acceptable at LSU, and it had gone on too damn long. Finally, we seem to have a good qb in brennan. I like what I saw from him in short duty this season and he showed signs of greatness, while also showing signs of being a freshman. He is a legitimate qb though and I believe our qb woes are finally over starting next season. Thank God.

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What are you talking about? LSU controlled its own destiny going into the Alabama game.

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starting 2-2 put a damper on everything. If you dont think that affected the mood of the team you've never played team sports

A damper?

Beat Alabama, at home, go to Atlanta.

Beat Florida, at home on Senior Day, go to the Sugar Bowl.


If you don't understand that, you've never played team sports either, amirite?



Besides, the coaching change was made speciifically to energize the team while they still controlled their fate, at least according to Alleva.