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re: VolTiger -Kristian Fulton

Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:35 pm to
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10457 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:35 pm to
Realistically, it is going to depend on whether they can prove LSU's staff didn't inform them of how these tests are administered, what they cover, etc.

LSU claims they gave him all of the information, while Fulton's lawyer claims they didn't adequately prepare him for the test, which partly led to his reaction and subsequent actions.

Question is, does him getting a reduced suspension result in LSU getting hit with not adequately informing their athletes on the policies and testing.
Posted by bugafor6
Member since Feb 2016
4200 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:38 pm to
I’m sure LSU would rather pay a fine and have him eligible than ray on him and make him sit out. The football department would at least.
Posted by 7Tiger7
Down South
Member since Jul 2015
3294 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:58 pm to
But our compliance department is another story.... those goofs report EVERYTHING, I mean, EVERYTHING. Sure it keeps us clean, but I would love some leeway.
Posted by VolTiger13
New Orleans, La
Member since Jul 2017
3884 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 5:44 pm to
Very positive and welcomed news. The appeal will be heard, and if not a full overturn, possibly a partial, and only miss part of the season. There's some growing optimism, but still not ready to call it a win.
Posted by BigSlick
No Idea
Member since Jan 2013
1166 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

quote:bc they didn't let him know what they were testing for?

Not sure what the new evidence is. The article written today didn't say. May have been in the original article from about a month ago where it was talked about the family pursuing this route.


Wasn't there some potential issue with chain of custody or flawed methodology?
Posted by TigerMak
Bossier City
Member since Mar 2018
565 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 7:10 pm to
I was told there is a new guy responsible for the decision who is supposed to be more favorable as opposed to the previous one.
Posted by tFearIsReal
Death Valley
Member since Sep 2015
2529 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 7:16 pm to
quote:

I was told there is a new guy responsible for the decision who is supposed to be more favorable as opposed to the previous one.


TAF doing work.
Posted by ThEGrEat 7
LSU country
Member since Jul 2018
41 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 7:22 pm to
I agree. any news is good news at this point At worst nothing happens and everything stays the same. At best he's reinstated and all the talk about finding a replacement opposite Greedy goes away it's been stated by the coaching staff he's one of the (if not the best) corner on the team former 5 star and best player in that 2016 class would complete our defense and lift it to an absolute ELITE level!! Geaux Tigers!!
Posted by VolTiger13
New Orleans, La
Member since Jul 2017
3884 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 7:23 pm to
That is my understanding. Also we expect to know something by August. Next 2-3 weeks is the hope. Best case scenario he'll be reinstated fully then
Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
12709 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 7:25 pm to
It's hard not to be optimistic about the outcome of his new hearing. This is great news. Geaux tigers.
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
5990 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 8:26 pm to
Getting Fulton back would be almost as big as landing Surtain.

Arguably better.
#1 CB with two years of practice.

Big puzzle piece if it actually happens!
Posted by Fuzzybunz
Member since Jan 2017
267 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 8:44 pm to
LINK

quote:

Jackson feels that Fulton violated rule 3.3 which says, "a student-athlete will be in breach of protocol and treated as if there was a positive test for a banned substance other than a street/illicit drug as denied in Bylaw 31.2.3 if the student-athlete:
* refuses to sign the notification form or custody and control form;
* fails to arrive at the collection station without justification as determined by Drug Free Sport;
* fails to provide a urine specimen according to protocol;
* leaves the collection station without authorization from the certified collector before providing a specimen according to protocol;
or * attempts to alter the integrity of the collection process."

Under rule 3.3, Fulton would not have been suspended if he tested positive for a street drug and would have only been suspended for a year if he would have tested positive for any performance-enhancing drugs, which means he'd be eligible now if he tested positive for either substance.


According to this article, it sounds like the lawyer is doing a really smart job of saying that Fulton is not innocent but guilty of a different infraction that holds a lesser penalty that he has already served.

If I understand this correctly I am actually a little optimistic as well.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
14733 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:50 pm to
I am assuming he been able to practice and workout this whole time?
Posted by VolTiger13
New Orleans, La
Member since Jul 2017
3884 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:56 pm to
Yes
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
9508 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:18 pm to
If Fulton gets eligible it’s a big deal.

I dare anyone to name a better CB duo in college football.
Posted by MLU
Member since Feb 2017
1677 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:37 pm to
The NCAA only considers changing it's mind for one reason and one reason only - lawsuit. Fulton must have a decent case.
Posted by VolTiger13
New Orleans, La
Member since Jul 2017
3884 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:44 pm to
Not sure how a lawsuit would work. NCAA is a voluntary entity, and there's no CBA protecting the players. (I'm not a lawyer, so I could be wrong) Lawyers may could find loopholes and wording that helps out the case though.
Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
6905 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:58 pm to
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Awesome! When is this suppose to happen? Has to be soon


November 4th
Posted by CT3
Member since Apr 2013
559 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 3:46 am to
I asked Keith Fulton on 247 if his opinion would Kristian play against Miami. And he said he was fairly hopeful. Said it was all up to the NCAA. He and their lawyer or fairly optimistic.
Posted by Gallant_Gringo
Member since Mar 2013
1760 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 6:37 am to
If he could play in the Miami game that would be monumental! Praying for that!
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