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re: Video Inside Shady's Before Fight on Ch. 8 (w/Links)UPDATED

Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by TigerEye2
Prairieville
Member since Aug 2011
308 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:17 pm to
When was the last time ANYONE has seen BRPD or any law inforcement Agency having Breaking news conferences on a bar fight? The fact that the responding officer arrived and basically did nothing should tell you how BRPD handles 100% of all bar fights in the city.....Why should this one be any different? Also funny that the Captain America is the only one pressing charges....Nothing has been mentioned about the other Shady 3 pressing charges....
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
48855 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:17 pm to
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But the BRPD said minor and if they say it's so, it is clearly so.


Their evidence is only valid when it fits someone's argument.
Posted by OH 58D
Dothan, AL
Member since Nov 2008
6591 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:17 pm to
You have the most befitting name on TD you sir are a clown.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:17 pm to
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This is close, but it is not these videos which prove JJ innocent. Every new piece of information no matter what it is in some way proves JJ is innocent.





I'm not even going to argue with you, because you and everyone else here damn well knows NO ONE is suggesting they have any information that attests to Jordan Jefferson's innocence. What those of us who have felt the need to defend the guy have been saying from the beginning, is that since none of us know jack shite, it MAY be prudent to simply sit down, shut the frick up, and wait until we actually know something before rendering a verdict on a kid we all ought to have a bit of a vested interest in, what with him being a Tiger and all. Hence the presumption of innocence, not the declaration of it.

On the other hand, you've had people openly calling for Jefferson's hard since day one based on even LESS info than we have now.

You seem to be a big fan of proof...what proof do we have Jefferson is guilty?
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:17 pm to
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Nothing has been mentioned about the other Shady 3 pressing charges....


I'm thinking those will come later
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135636 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:18 pm to
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I know man. I just can't see them arresting these two for no good reason. If that's the case, it's a serious black eye for the new chief.

After seeing the likes of Mike Nifong, Steve Chalmers, Linwood E. Wilson, and Mark Gottlieb at work in the Duke Lacrosse Case, I do not share your certainty. Not at all.

But my point is why the rush to charge these kids during an ongoing investigation? That action is totally incongruent with ANY proposed inter-BRPD proLSU bias. In fact, it is just the opposite.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:18 pm to
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Where is this witness statement at?


It's a statement. It doesn't exist in a physical sense. Thus, it has no location. It is everywhere and nowhere.

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Can I read it?


Probably not.
Posted by real
Dixieland
Member since Oct 2007
14027 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:18 pm to
But i choose to not really form a opinion of his guilt or innocence until we are allowed to know what all the evidence is. Then ill be able to form a reasonable decision. So as for as im concerned both JJ's are innocent until proven guilty.
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12265 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:19 pm to
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And you may be right, if so, the BRPD will be made to look like fools and a great injustice to JJ would have been done.


And you are correct. What amazes me though is the presumption that the evidence for public consumption is the sole body of evidence. Maybe it is, and if so, I will be the first person in line to congratulate the exoneration of the man. I didnt want it to happen. I think it couldnt have happenned at a worst time for our team.

But I personally think it is ignorant to pass some of the large sweeping judgments of the BRPD and the quality of evidence when we don't have a clue what they actually have. We are just going to assume 'they did a horrible job' or 'arrested an innocent man'. Again, I will be the first to slam them if they went this far off of what is for public consumption at this time.
Posted by Vol Fan in the Bayou
Member since Nov 2009
4158 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:19 pm to
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Where is this witness statement at?

Can I read it?




Can't find the one without the redacting.

Police report
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:20 pm to
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You have the most befitting name on TD you sir are a clown.


And your mom is a whore.
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
48855 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:21 pm to
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You have the most befitting name on TD you sir are a clown.

If that's the criteria then your name would be: Stupid Idiotic Moronic a-hole.

But of course that's all hypothetical.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:22 pm to
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This is close, but it is not these videos which prove JJ innocent. Every new piece of information no matter what it is in some way proves JJ is innocent.


i don't think you understand what "beyond a reasonable doubt" means
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
48855 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:23 pm to
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You have the most befitting name on TD you sir are a clown.


And your mom is a whore.
I wish she was a virgin.
Posted by taf
Kansas City, KS
Member since Dec 2003
787 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:23 pm to
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There are plenty of posters here that think this is the BRPD out to get JJ.


It may be true that some posters think this.

However, one doesn't have to invoke conspiracy theories to suggest that JJ could have been wrongly arrested. Have you never seen examples where police were lazy, incompetent, misled, overzealous, or simply mistaken?

I don't know if any of those are true in this case, but I think one would be mistaken to think that any or all of these are beyond the realm of possibility.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:23 pm to
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Can't find the one without the redacting.

Police report


Thanks, I wasn't going to waste my time searching for it to prove Elmer Fudd wrong.
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
4404 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:24 pm to
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You seem to be a big fan of proof...what proof do we have Jefferson is guilty?


Love the facepalm.

We don't have any proof. We are assuming the BRPD must have some or they wouldn't have made the arrests. I'm taking Lowery's statements as what happened since JJ's lawyer is agreeing with them. The question now is was JJ involved or not. Maybe Lowery and Long just recognized him, but didn't realize he was in the crowd trying to help break things up.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:24 pm to
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Can't find the one without the redacting.


The only pertinent info removed there is Lowry and Long's names.
Posted by OH 58D
Dothan, AL
Member since Nov 2008
6591 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:25 pm to
You, choctaw, Jester, lsudm21, and Philosoraptor are pathetic. You care more about this dumb shite than the game this weekend. In fact I bet if you could you would make up testimony just so you could come back on here and say I TOLD YOU SO!!!!111! HE WAS INNOCENT! What is your stake in this? Why are you so adamant about his innocence and the pushing of blatant disregard for all societal laws. Is it okay for everyone to break the law or only certain people? Like I said I don't see you defending Johns. Are only black people allowed to break the law, but whites are subjected to punishment?
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:26 pm to
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We are assuming the BRPD must have some or they wouldn't have made the arrests


arse.....u.......me......
This post was edited on 8/31/11 at 1:27 pm
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