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re: Video Inside Shady's Before Fight on Ch. 8 (w/Links)UPDATED

Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:50 pm to
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12386 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:50 pm to
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The bouncers actually did say the truck was involved. They said it pulled up to the fight which was already in progress. I guess conflicting with JJ's own lawyer doesn't make them unreliable though.


Well somebody's story is wrong... and as the past week has shown... discrepancies mean no credability.

The timing is key because the lawyer says JJ saw what was going down and as a leader ran over to break it up and push his players away.


Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87385 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:51 pm to
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So maybe it wasnt jj that kicked the guy on the head in the vid...there was another guy (driver yet to be named that I know of) that has the 3 fractured vertebrae...maybe jj is being accused of causing his injuries?
They don't want to talk about anyone but Lowery even though they don't know who was who.
Posted by real
Dixieland
Member since Oct 2007
14027 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:51 pm to
Guys i could be wrong , and hope that i am. But im sure the police are going on alot more than just this video. They would not have made arrest on just that. So we will see. i wish it were just that cutn dry, but its not.
This post was edited on 8/31/11 at 12:52 pm
Posted by LSUPhreaK
LaPlace, La.
Member since Dec 2003
10944 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:52 pm to
Sssshhhhhh. Don't tell the Rantards.
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
Geismar
Member since Dec 2009
5253 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:53 pm to
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They don't want to talk about anyone but Lowery even though they don't know who was who.


Who is "they?"
- BRPD?
- jj supporters?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138801 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:53 pm to
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Holy shite this is ignorant. Do you really think JJ and Johns were charged for no reason?
Well, if you'll tolerate my 'ignorance', as the evidence gathered could have been turned over to the DA, more evidence properly processed (i.e., shoes, DNA, etc), witnesses identified and <gasp> even interviewed, all with no need whatsoever to file charges at this point, yes "for no reason" is an applicable phrase. What was the reason for the rush to file charges?
There was none.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:54 pm to
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I see him confronting a girl and trying to block her way when she wants no part of him, but I don't think I can call that abuse.


Umm, I didn't kidnap her. I just wouldn't let her leave.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:54 pm to
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They don't want to talk about anyone but Lowery even though they don't know who was who.


Lowerys lawyer said JJ is only associated with AL
Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:55 pm to
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But im sure the police are going on alot more than just this video.
Is it purely coincidental that the only two names in the police report are the only two people that were arrested?
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12502 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:56 pm to
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They don't want to talk about anyone but Lowery even though they don't know who was who.
Because Jordan Jefferson was named by a witness, Long, as having kicked LOWERY in the face. That is why none of this makes since. You act as if none of this has been publicly stated, and we just are grasping at straws. But yeah, it WAS publicly stated, and based on other public info, it doesn't add up.
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We aren't linking JJ and Lowery, the witness did.
Posted by real
Dixieland
Member since Oct 2007
14027 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:56 pm to
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What was the reason for the rush to file charges?
Even coach miles wanted it done sooner rather than later. The BRPD was being rushed to make a move. Now is it the right one? I cant see them doin that without a huge amount of evidence. This kinda thing can be a DA"s job. See the Duke lacroosse DA's career since then. Hillar Moore wouldnt have done it , without extreme edvidence. I know him and thats a fact.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:56 pm to
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Someone deserved to be kicked in the head?


Multiple times
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:56 pm to
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Guys i could be wrong , and hope that i am. But im sure the police are going on alot more than just this video. They would not have made arrest on just that. So we will see. i wish it were just that cutn dry, but its not.


Real, I agree with you 100%
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:58 pm to
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. What was the reason for the rush to file charges?
There was none.



4 people were injured.

You are a medical professional, aren't you?

Posted by real
Dixieland
Member since Oct 2007
14027 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:59 pm to
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Is it purely coincidental that the only two names in the police report are the only two people that were arrested?
I dont know what the facts are. All i know is if some of you really beleive that they just arrested these guys without alot of evidence then i say your wrong. With such a spot light on thise they know that they had better have all their ducks in a row. As for as JJ's lawyer, are any of you really suprised by how he is acting? I wouldua been shocked if he wasnt acting like this.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:00 pm to
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You are a medical professional, aren't you?


So you are implying that BRPD pressing charges affects the treatment of minor injuries?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138801 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

What was the reason for the rush to file charges?
Even coach miles wanted it done sooner rather than later.
Well, that must have been the reason for the rush.
quote:

Hillar Moore wouldnt have done it
I imagine he'd skin Dewayne White at this point if he had the chance.
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
Geismar
Member since Dec 2009
5253 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:00 pm to
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Because Jordan Jefferson was named by a witness, Long, as having kicked LOWERY in the face. That is why none of this makes since. You act as if none of this has been publicly stated, and we just are grasping at straws. But yeah, it WAS publicly stated, and based on other public info, it doesn't add up.


So you know that AL was only kicked in the face once and it was captured in the video??
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:01 pm to
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I dont know what the facts are. All i know is if some of you really beleive that they just arrested these guys without alot of evidence then i say your wrong. With such a spot light on thise they know that they had better have all their ducks in a row


That is where we disagree. I have had to deal with BRPD, and they were far less than impressive as an investigative force.
Posted by real
Dixieland
Member since Oct 2007
14027 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:01 pm to
Doc i know the BRPD and i know alot of the high ups. And they are LSU fanatics and they as much as most fans hate to see this happen. Im not sayn JJ isnt Innconect and he is until proven guilty, but i know that the BRPD had to have alot of evidence to take it to this level.
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