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re: Video Inside Shady's Before Fight on Ch. 8 (w/Links)UPDATED

Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:30 pm to
And his lawyer says he got involved to the extent of tryin to break things up... pushing players away (must have been after or before the bouncers said was off to the side). Bouncers story is wholly inconsistent with JJ lawyer (ie lowery started it vs lowery being in the bar).

Full disclosure: Lowery is a douche. period. not saying anything otherwise.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23334 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:31 pm to
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Statements are given Tuesday

Shoes are taken Wednesday
yeah; could be related but maybe not just like most everything else so far. the kicker was allegedly JJ from the start so they might would have taken his shoes regardless.

the shoes and DNA are largely a show by the BRPD IMO. they prove JJ was there but that's about it.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:32 pm to


Yeah, I'm not sticking up for him. He's clearly an a-hole.

He just didn't beat himself up. That's all I'm saying.
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
4404 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:33 pm to
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I'd say he's clearly harassing her.


Could also be that point in an argument where someone starts ignoring the other person to annoy the hell out of them. Who knows what they might be talking about.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:35 pm to
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Could also be that point in an argument where someone starts ignoring the other person to annoy the hell out of them.


what does this have to do with anything?
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:37 pm to
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Where in the video was he "abusing" a female?
Did you see the clip from inside Shady's?


I don't see abuse taking place.

I see him confronting a girl and trying to block her way when she wants no part of him, but I don't think I can call that abuse.

Really, none of the videos I have seen prove anything bout JJ or the guy other than the fact JJ wasn't dressed all in black.

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Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
4404 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:39 pm to
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what does this have to do with anything?


Nothing. Just discussion. Damn.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135638 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:39 pm to
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He just didn't beat himself up. That's all I'm saying.
Well then by all means, let's charge you, or let's charge me, or let's charge Rudy Macklin, because the punk just didn't beat himself up. Let's charge somebody, in fact let's overcharge them. Then we'll get it sorted out by December. No big deal. That is some damn fine police work.
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12265 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:40 pm to
The videos confirm that Lowery was beliggerant, but now we have JJ's own lawyer saying the first fight was going on before JJ and Lowery left the bar... they walked out into it.

Which, BTW, differs from the bouncers who say Lowery started everything with a punch and the infamous truck was not involved.

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86462 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:43 pm to
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Well then by all means, let's charge you, or let's charge me, or let's charge Rudy Macklin, because the punk just didn't beat himself up. Let's charge somebody, in fact let's overcharge them. Then we'll get it sorted out by December. No big deal. That is some damn fine police work.
Holy shite this is ignorant. Do you really think JJ and Johns were charged for no reason? Do you honestly believe the PD has only what's been discussed here?
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:45 pm to
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Well then by all means, let's charge you, or let's charge me, or let's charge Rudy Macklin, because the punk just didn't beat himself up. Let's charge somebody, in fact let's overcharge them. Then we'll get it sorted out by December. No big deal. That is some damn fine police work.


You've got to be kidding me
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38959 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:46 pm to
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He just didn't beat himself up. That's all I'm saying.


No one disagrees with this.

But isn't it obvious who started the fight? Let's see, a guy that is in a bad mood because of a fight with an ex or a football player who was obviously in a good mood and just having a fun night.

In the end, Lowery got what he deserved and no video we have proves JJ kicked anyone.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:46 pm to
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Do you really think JJ and Johns were charged for no reason?


Some lsu fans do

I hear them on the radio
I see their posts on the rant

It's all a big conspiracy to kick JJ1 and JJ2 off the team
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
4404 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:47 pm to
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the infamous truck was not involved.


The bouncers actually did say the truck was involved. They said it pulled up to the fight which was already in progress. I guess conflicting with JJ's own lawyer doesn't make them unreliable though.

I actually said yesterday that JJ's lawyer was not contesting Lowery's story. He was only claiming JJ was not involved. He also said he didn't think the injuries justified 2nd degree.
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12265 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:47 pm to
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But isn't it obvious who started the fight?


Apparently JJ's lawyer disagrees with you. He said today the fighting began BEFORE JJ or Lowery left the bar. Or is that what you are saying is 'obvious'.

Disclosure: Lowery is a douche.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86462 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:48 pm to
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Some lsu fans do
Oh, I know. Amazing and sad at the same time.
Posted by White Shadeaux
In the nicest parts of hell
Member since Jan 2006
24114 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:48 pm to
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Some of you really don't get it.



Some of us never cry when we lose a fight, that we started, either.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

But isn't it obvious who started the fight?


How is it obvious?
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
Geismar
Member since Dec 2009
5242 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:49 pm to
I read page 1 and 61...don't have time for rest right now...

Question...sorry if already asked...

So maybe it wasnt jj that kicked the guy on the head in the vid...there was another guy (driver yet to be named that I know of) that has the 3 fractured vertebrae...maybe jj is being accused of causing his injuries?

The kicker in the video is maybe someone that hasn't been arrested yet (BRPD said to expect more arrests).
Posted by LSUPhreaK
LaPlace, La.
Member since Dec 2003
10938 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:49 pm to
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In the end, Lowery got what he deserved and no video we have proves JJ kicked anyone.



Says you. Someone deserved to be kicked in the head? Broken facial bones/vertebrae? Read the law, son.
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