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re: Video Inside Shady's Before Fight on Ch. 8 (w/Links)UPDATED

Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:35 am to
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:35 am to
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but guessing is only correct if the guess exonerates JJ. in fact, disregard facts that will invalidate the guess.
you're also guessing that the BRPD has this mountain of evidence against JJ that the public doesn't know about. you're also guessing that the BRPD didn't frick this thing up from the jump.
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12265 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:36 am to
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Can you point to anyone in the video that matches the description of Jefferson?


Can you point me to the video of Lowery throwing the first punch X seconds before we see lowery (or someone liking him) dragging the guy to the truck at the beginning of the video, and then show me the minute video between the drag and the 3 second kicking sequence?

My point being is how 3 seconds of one guy getting kicked has been interpretated as being the act in its entirety when both Lowery and the bouncers claim it started much much earlier (although at different times)
Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:36 am to
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I'd have to get a better look counselor.
I hear you. It takes a lot of study just to see what's going on. I've looked pretty carefully, and I don't see him.



Has anybody spotted Jefferson in the video?

Anyone?

Anyone?
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:36 am to
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You don't think there's a good chance more witnesses came forward this last week?


The COULD HAVE, but that's all you can say.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:36 am to
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well...some people said he was at practice Monday. so i don't know what to tell you.


His lawyer said he didn't yesterday on the radio

JJ's lawyer > random rant dude
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:37 am to
i'll try this again since you seem to be having trouble


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Clearly the witnesses just made up everything and this is all a conspiracy.


quote:

Which witnesses, Doc?




Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:38 am to
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The COULD HAVE, but that's all you can say.


That's all I did say...
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12265 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:38 am to
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Has anybody spotted Jefferson in the video?

Anyone?

Anyone?


I havent. But I also havent heard the BRPD say such video is the event or the conclusive evidence in the event.

I am not sure why I seem to be the only one that thinks we should get a better idea of what evidence the BRPD used to get the arrest warrant and search warrants before making grandiose conclusions.

This video is 3 seconds of a multi minute incident by all accounts.

Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:38 am to
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When you call someone an "idoit" you might want to make sure you spell the word right


When typing on a iPhone anything gives.
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:38 am to
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Which witnesses, Doc?



Named and unnamed
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:39 am to
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ude, I'm not the police department. I don't know.


Right...but your suggestion I was responding to clearly indicated that there was some large group of unbiased witnesses that have all pointed at the JJ's and to think they could be wrong or biased was crazy talk. As such, I asked about this group...because as of yet I only know of 2 people who have identified the JJ's...

quote:

Not sure why people are hating on me.

Just being objective.


Because, and I hope you take this knowing how much I enjoy debating on your side on the Poli Board...the only time you have seemed to actually be objective about any of this is when you've been presented with info or facts which contradict your accusations. Your comment about why people are defending JJ so vehemently since he's so mediocre you made yesterday, if serious, is EXACTLY what I've been harping on for days now. For some it appears that the fastest way to get JJ from under center and potentially make the LSU offense better dropped in their lap recently, and there's no way they are going to allow any thought that he may actually be innocent here deter them from seeing him replaced.

When you start agreeing with Robbbob (a guy that if I remember correctly thinks the earth is 10,000 years old) you may want to take a step back...
Posted by manwich
You've wanted my
Member since Oct 2008
52753 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:39 am to
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When typing on a iPhone anything gives.

goes*
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:39 am to
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That's all I did say...


But you were just busting my balls about using a hypothetical just a page ago....
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:40 am to
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I am not sure why I seem to be the only one that thinks we should get a better idea of what evidence the BRPD used to get the arrest warrant and search warrants before making grandiose conclusions.


This

We don't know what they have right now
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:41 am to
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Named and unnamed


so the witnesses that said JJ didn't do it or the ones that said he did?
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23332 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:41 am to
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I am not sure why I seem to be the only one that thinks we should get a better idea of what evidence the BRPD used to get the arrest warrant and search warrants before making grandiose conclusions.
I'm making no conclusions just stating my current opinion based on what has been released. I make no assumptions that the BRPD has or doesn't have a "smoking gun" that implicates JJ. some are positive that they do bu they are just guessing.

based on what we currently know JJ walks on this easily IMO
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33382 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:42 am to
quote:

Has anybody spotted Jefferson in the video?

Anyone?

Anyone?

Has anyone spotted Lowery throwing a punch in the video?

Anyone?

Anyone?


That dog won't hunt, Perry.
Posted by manwich
You've wanted my
Member since Oct 2008
52753 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:42 am to


So...how many posts would you say you have made on this topic?
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:42 am to
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defending JJ so vehemently since he's so mediocre you made yesterday,


Seriously that was comic relief and a passing joke.

quote:

When you start agreeing with Robbbob (a guy that if I remember correctly thinks the earth is 10,000 years old) you may want to take a step back


Robb is a hack and so is TIGRLEE.

They take it to the extreme for the most part.

Robb is also good at spinning shite and exaggerating.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 9:43 am to
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We don't know what they have right now

But you already treat him as guilty.
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