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re: Video Inside Shady's Before Fight on Ch. 8 (w/Links)UPDATED

Posted on 8/30/11 at 10:05 pm to
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 10:05 pm to
quote:

next thing they'll fall back on the "they shouldn't be in bars" argument.


You guys are good. You've disproven all the "Team BRPD Sweep" points and now all charges against JJ are being dropped.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 10:05 pm to
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Well if we assume he's a complete liar then he'd be lying about JJ kicking him too right?



did you hurt your back?
Posted by manwich
You've wanted my
Member since Oct 2008
52835 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 10:06 pm to
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other than JJ is oblivious to Lowery and he's wearing a light shirt.
come on, Caubs. you have no way of knowing if anyone in that video is JJ.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
37180 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 10:06 pm to
JJ raw dog your sister or something?
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 10:07 pm to
You going to address my answer to your question?
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 10:10 pm to
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We don't know what happened. Just because I think Lowery has credibility issues doesn't mean everything he has said is untrue. And even if we assume Lowery is a complete liar, it still doesn't mean Jefferson is innocent of kicking him in the head.



Here's the thing....they don't have to prove that JJ didn't do it. They have to prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that JJ DID do it. IMO...that ain't happening
Posted by Sports2
w/friends like u, who needs friends
Member since Jul 2005
3724 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 10:11 pm to
Not the fight video, the inside bar video, we've got a copy here at work, that video is actually very clear, it's just not of the actual fight.
Posted by manwich
You've wanted my
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 10:11 pm to
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They have to prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that JJ DID do it. IMO...that ain't happening

which makes one wonder, why the second degree battery charge?
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
37180 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 10:11 pm to
Exactly. At this point they can't even show more likely than not.
Posted by diplip
the Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2011
897 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 10:11 pm to
Well there was a bouncer named jordan there, right. Don't you think someone was calling foe him to call the police....

I thought th 5-0 did not show up till later, d
not during the fighf
Posted by rosiebean
Member since Nov 2007
2093 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 10:13 pm to
We don't know if bar employees tried/offered to give statements to the brpd.

Likewise, we don't know if those LSU football players interviewed by LE claimed someone unassociated with the team was involved with the fight and the guy in black kicking in the vid was some random dude (as some posters have asked why the players did't do so if that was the case...they actually may have made that claim).

Despite what AL's lawyer said to the media, we don't know if AL added any details (i.e. I was never in the bar) later bit do we know what the other three told LE.

We are all speculating
Posted by manwich
You've wanted my
Member since Oct 2008
52835 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 10:13 pm to
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I thought th 5-0 did not show up till later, d
not during the fighf

i think it was just a warning, not a sighting
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10482 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 10:13 pm to
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this is beyond anything we have known about JJ since he's been at LSU. it would take some serious evidence to make me believe he would do this.
It doesn't add up.
It may be known to some who the kicker is, but the lawyers said they've got nothing, just keep quiet and nobody gets convicted.
I'm done.
We'll see what kind of turn this takes tomorrow.
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37856 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 10:13 pm to
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"Runs out" wasn't a good choice of words. AL is still full of shite (and obviously a friend of yours). The chick that was part of your friend's group says she can positively id JJ as the kicker. Two bar employees say she's full of shite.


Come the frick on. Idk anyone involved in the incident. I'm just correcting bs that ppl keep posting. I've never said anyone was innocent or guilty. You posted that "a few of the victims" have been caught "in a couple of lies". Do you even know who the victims are, or what they've claimed?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 10:13 pm to
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Here's the thing....they don't have to prove that JJ didn't do it. They have to prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that JJ DID do it. IMO...that ain't happening



I don't care about the legal side honestly. Will be dropped or downgraded. I still find it hilarious after a week people pretending they know what happened though.
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 10:14 pm to
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which makes one wonder, why the second degree battery charge?


no idea.
Posted by rosiebean
Member since Nov 2007
2093 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 10:14 pm to
We don't know if bar employees tried/offered to give statements to the brpd.

Likewise, we don't know if those LSU football players interviewed by LE claimed someone unassociated with the team was involved with the fight and the guy in black kicking in the vid was some random dude (as some posters have asked why the players did't do so if that was the case...they actually may have made that claim).

Despite what AL's lawyer said to the media, we don't know if AL added any details (i.e. I was never in the bar) later bit do we know what the other three told LE.

We are all speculating
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 10:15 pm to
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I still find it hilarious after a week people pretending they know what happened though.


the new video is pretty telling...but i just have my opinions
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 10:16 pm to
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I've never said anyone was innocent or guilty.


its pretty obvious you have a side
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
37180 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 10:17 pm to
So not going to address it, got it.
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