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re: USA Today new story on mishandling of misconduct complaints against athletes

Posted on 11/17/20 at 7:28 am to
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143780 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 7:28 am to
quote:

Before this was brought to light he seemed like he could possibly be a good AD.


If he quits taking the away game before the home game constantly
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466158 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 7:30 am to
quote:

It's odd that the article is saying LSU didn't do enough, but Peter Parrish was suing LSU at one point for unfair treatment over how they handled his case. It seems LSU was in a tough spot either way.

yes the Obama-era guidance fricked schools

it forced an institutional structure that destroys any due process for the accused student and effectively forces schools to find most all allegations truthful. like i said earlier in this thread, they even advertised Title 9 as the preferred route for accusers compared to LEO, because it was easier on them

this has led to many innocent male students being disciplined and having their academic record tainted, and then those males suing schools for lack of due process. the schools cannot win with this scheme. Devos did change it to a more rational-legal system, but i expect that to be reversed back to the Obama-era guidance soon

now, saying all of that, this doesn't mean LSU is out of the hot box for all of these accusations. Peter Parish is just a possible example where LSU was going to be forced to violate the law, one way or the other, no matter what they did
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108480 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 7:46 am to
It’s so strange Lester fights the fight for minorities, yet seems to love Title IX which disproportionately screws over black males and sends them back to Jim Crow where they have basically ZERO due process

So strange
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108480 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 7:49 am to
quote:

Do you want black 'kids' to get away with rape??


We want them to properly get processed with all
Legal rights in the court of law

Not have their rights basically stripped in a kangaroo title ix court.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466158 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 7:49 am to
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It’s so strange Lester fights the fight for minorities, yet seems to love Title IX which disproportionately screws over black males and sends them back to Jim Crow where they have basically ZERO due process

So strange

it's not just Les. it's a very common paradox from SJW/leftists in this discussion

certainly deserves one of these

This post was edited on 11/17/20 at 7:50 am
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
17213 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 7:52 am to
quote:

it's a very common paradox from SJW/leftists in this discussion


Black Males are lower on the sjw totem pole of protection. Now trans Muslim black males are in good shape tho....if charged the kid should immediately cut his dick off and put on a hijab
This post was edited on 11/17/20 at 7:54 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466158 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 7:56 am to
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Black Males are lower on the sjw totem pole of protection.

maybe before 2020 but George Floyd and the response changed that

quote:

Now trans Muslim black males are in good shape tho

that's so 2015
This post was edited on 11/17/20 at 7:57 am
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13063 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 9:00 am to
If you followed the Baylor scandals, you will recall that this is exactly how the fan-base reacted.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
36968 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 9:16 am to
quote:

Before this was brought to light he seemed like he could possibly be a good AD.



No, not by anyone who is sane and rational.

A few posters here got a hard-on for him because Verge returned their phone calls and emails. That was it.
Posted by Duck enticer
Crowley
Member since Apr 2010
1348 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 9:18 am to
I read the USA article and the thing that stuck out about the Samantha Brennan story is that I think she's lying that she can't remember anything. I mean surely she remembers letting him into her apartment and having sex with him. There is another side to that one no doubt.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466158 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 9:21 am to
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If you followed the Baylor scandals, you will recall that this is exactly how the fan-base reacted.

Baylor still had the same AD, President, and FB coach

LSU has a new AD and President and it's not clear how much happened under O being the actual HC

big differences
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13063 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 9:32 am to
Agreed that the Pres was the same, but Orgeron has been here for most all of this.
My point is that the fan-base denied that there was a real problem for the institution, like many of the posts above.
This is a problem for LSU. Even in the SEC you see more and more claims about how the entire AD is dirty and we have already lost scholarships for OBJ antics. We have 68 scholarship players and are 2-3 against bad teams. The Will Wade jury is still out and Ed Orgeron's accomplishments this year appear to be mostly in the sack with 30 yr olds.
NOt a good look for a program that wants to maintain 80 million/ yr in revenues for a football program.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11972 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 9:45 am to
I'm always fascinated by the different poster's reactions to good and bad news on here.
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
8145 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 11:18 am to
quote:

My point is that the fan-base denied that there was a real problem for the institution, like many of the posts above.


I believe it is a problem for the institution more than for the football program itself.

Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32986 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 1:26 pm to
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Agreed that the Pres was the same, but Orgeron has been here for most all of this. My point is that the fan-base denied that there was a real problem for the institution, like many of the posts above.


Will Wade getting caught on tape is extremely rare and that’s why it was such big news. Same with Baylor and their staff. Most athletic departments are intentionally set up to keep head coaches firewalled from any involvement until it’s time to suspend a player with cause. I would bet money there will be no trails leading back to O here.

If this reports turns out to be at least partially true, some people are going to get fired. There will be some in athletics like Ausberry and the Tennis staff, some in the school admin, possible people with the LSU Police and I would bet on some in the Title IX Office, too. There would be more if there hadn’t been so much turnover across the school since the Guice situation.
This post was edited on 11/17/20 at 1:27 pm
Posted by cliffset21
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2007
440 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 3:44 pm to
Heads will roll in the Title IX office!
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